Modern view: a history of science?

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The discussion revolves around the historical relationship between modern physics theories, such as relativity and quantum mechanics, and broader cultural developments in the early 20th century. Participants explore the influence of scientific advancements on various fields, including psychology, art, and philosophy, while also questioning the extent of this influence.

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  • One participant is researching the historical context of modern physics and seeks book recommendations on the subject.
  • Another participant suggests looking into Alan Sokal, implying relevance to the discussion.
  • Some participants caution against making superficial connections between scientific developments and cultural phenomena, arguing that scientific theory is primarily driven by experimental insights and mathematical logic.
  • Conversely, one participant argues that new artistic expressions often draw inspiration from scientific breakthroughs, citing examples like the Enlightenment and impressionism as influenced by scientific thought and discoveries.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between science and culture. Some assert that science operates independently of cultural influences, while others contend that scientific advancements can inspire artistic movements and cultural shifts. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between science and culture, with participants acknowledging the potential for both influence and independence, but not reaching a consensus on the nature of this relationship.

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Hello everyone:
Im doing a research on the history of "modern" physics theories (namely relativity and quantum) trying to understand its role in a more general historic proceses that gave raise to a whole explostion of cultural development (from psicology, to cinema, with artistic vangards and political changes, philosophical questions and terrible wars in between) in the first decades of the XX century.
It would be of great help if someone could recommend good books on this subject.
Thanks
 
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Alan Sokal. Look him up.
 
Don't fall into the trap of making shallow analogies and false connections.

In the main, science as a discipline&community is self-driven; scientific theory-making is based on insights gained from experiments and the "internal" logic of mathematical expressions.
It is not, to any significant extent, inspired by, dependent upon or developed from contemporary artistic expressions or cultural phenomena.
 
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arildno said:
Don't fall into the trap of making shallow analogies and false connections.

In the main, science as a discipline&community is self-driven; scientific theory-making is based on insights gained from experiments and the "internal" logic of mathematical expressions.
It is not, to any significant extent, inspired by, dependent upon or developed from contemporary artistic expressions or cultural phenomena.


Nor are they developed from or influenced by it. Yet it is remarkable how often they "chime".
 
Well, as I see it, many new artistic expressions DO get their inspiration from breakthroughs in science/ dissemination of scientific knowledge to the general public.
For example, 18th century Enlightenment is unthinkable without the massive success "pure reason" in the person of Isaac Newton had already made.
If Man, by reason alone, could figure out and predict the motion of the heavenly bodies, why should one continue to accept that rational speculation ought to remain bound by religious doctrine on other areas of experience?

Another case in point is "impressionism", a painting tradition that as far as I know got its impetus from insights gained from the neorology of sight.
 
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