Moment of Inertia and Torque problem

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The problem involves a wheel that is free to rotate about its axis, initially at rest, with a constant external torque applied. The task is to find the moment of inertia of the wheel and the frictional torque, given the angular velocity achieved after a specified time and the time taken for the wheel to come to rest after the torque is removed.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss converting angular velocity from revolutions per minute to radians per second and calculating angular acceleration based on the applied torque and time.
  • Some participants question the correctness of their calculations for angular velocity and acceleration, leading to confusion about the moment of inertia.
  • There is an exploration of the relationship between torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration, with attempts to clarify the equations used.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the radius needed for the moment of inertia formula.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting various calculations and questioning their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of torque and angular acceleration to find moment of inertia. There is recognition of the need to consider the deceleration phase of the wheel's motion.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific values for torque and time, and are navigating the complexities of angular motion and inertia without complete information about the wheel's radius.

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Homework Statement


A wheel free to rotate about its axis that is not frictionless is initially at rest. A constant external torque of +44 N·m is applied to the wheel for 23 s, giving the wheel an angular velocity of +520 rev/min. The external torque is then removed, and the wheel comes to rest 120 s later. (Include the sign in your answers.)

a) Find the moment of inertia of the wheel.
b) Find the frictional torque, which is assumed to be constant.

Homework Equations


Torque = Intertia x angular acceleration
Inertia = (mr^2)/4
This is the inertia for a solid disk
angular acceleration = angular velocity/time


The Attempt at a Solution


So here's my attempt I started by changing the 520 rev/min to...
520 rev/min * 1 min /60 sec = 8.67 rev/sec
8.67 rev/sec * 2 pi rads/1 rev = 17.33 pi rads /sec

After that I wanted the angular velocity so I did...
17.33 pi rads/sec / 23 seconds = 2.368 rads / sec^2

With the angular velocity I found the angular acceleration to be...
a = 2.368/23 sec = .1029 rads / sec^2

I know I'll have to use that to solve for the Torque (I think)

What I'm really stuck on is getting a) The moment of intertia of the wheel.
I = (mr^2)/4
I don't know where to get the r from, and maybe that equation is wrong overall which is another thing I am confused about.

If I can get that I believe I would just use the angular acceleration I got and the Intertia to get the Torque.

Any help towards the right direction would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)
 
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You have torque and angular acceleration; use that to calculate the moment of inertia of the wheel.
 
Pi-Bond said:
You have torque and angular acceleration; use that to calculate the moment of inertia of the wheel.

Uhm If I use the acceleration I got .1029 rads/sec^2 into the equation T = Inertia x angular acceleration

That would be Intertia = Torque/angular acceleration
Intertia = 44 / .1029
Intertia = 427.6 kg m^2

That didn't get me the right answer and it doesn't look like the right one. Is that what you
ment.
 
Your calculation of angular velocity and angular acceleration are incorrect. (Do you really think that angular velocity has units of rad/s^2?)
 
SteamKing said:
Your calculation of angular velocity and angular acceleration are incorrect. (Do you really think that angular velocity has units of rad/s^2?)

Ah true...wouldn't the angular velocity and acceleration be this instead then

520 rev/min * 1min/60 sec = 8.67 rev/sec
8.67 rev /sec *2pi rads / rev = 54.454 rads /sec (This would be my actual angular velocity)

So then my angular acceleration would be
a = w/t
a = 54.454 (rads/sec) / 23 seconds = 2.367577 rads/sec^2

This looks right to me, but even if I take this and plug it into Torque = Inertia x angular acceleration the answer for a is wrong.
 
Ah I finally got the problem, I had to also take into consideration the acceleration of when the wheel was slowing down as well. Add the two accelerations and then use that for
the Intertia.

b) was just using the found intertia to solve for torque

Thanks a bunch to those that helped!
 

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