Monument to Homophobia in Casper, WY: God's Warning?

[Tsu]

Originally posted by phoenixthoth
are you serious?

what's the rationale behind closing a thread primarily about religion in a general discussion forum?

I don't think it IS closed...yet. We need to be careful about discussing religion is all. Zero! Quit dragging religion into it so we feel the need to defend ourselves! BE NICE!

 

[phoenixthoth]

the question in the first post in this thread was this:

"question: what evidence is there that it's God's warning and not the warning of a man?"

this is a theological question and not one of religion. i'd like to point out that a *PF mentor* quickly turned this into a discussion about religion when he brought up the bible, saying things similar to "it preaches hate" and "God instructs you to kill." if religion is not permitted on this board, why is it that a PF mentor is allowed to bring it up?

 

[megashawn]

But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."

Actually, I'd say it was this comment that spawned the reaction in question. As to religous discussion, I don't think its completely outlawed here, just that they do not wish a whole forum of unfalsifiable claims to run rampant. I imagine it could become quite a headache to deal with.

But it seems that the issues brought up by zero and others are relevant to the point of the thread. Basically, the attempt is to show that this should come as no suprise, because historically this is how people with religous beliefs react. While this will do nothing but further the animosity, its not nearly as violent as many other actions commited in the name of one god or another.

 

[phoenixthoth]

the easy "asprin" for the "headache" is to not read things you disagree with. another easy "asprin" is censorship.

 

[Loren Booda]

I can't begin to imagine what perverted sexual fantasies Phelps himself entertains in God's presence. He follows one phrase from the Bible to justify his sadism, and ignores the remainder. Satan would surely be proud of him.

 

[Tsu]

Originally posted by Loren Booda
I can't begin to imagine what perverted sexual fantasies Phelps himself entertains in God's presence. He follows one phrase from the Bible to justify his sadism, and ignores the remainder. Satan would surely be proud of him.

I'll bet Satan is pretty proud of himself, too! He snagged himself a Baptist preacher! I don't understand the hypocrisy either. He is just as bad as the minister who killed the abortion doctor and his bodyguard. How they feel justified in their actions is simply beyond comprehension.

 

[phoenixthoth]

look at the relevant quote from the bible where it says, "[abominations] will surely be put to death." that is construed to mean that one should take it upon themselves to put people to death. the quote is not an instruction to kill for it doesn't say who will put the person to death, a man or God. remember when jesus protected the prostitute by saying, "he who has not sinned shall cast the first stone?" the same applies to all sinners, even homosexuals, i would imagine. (i'm not saying *i* believe in sin or that homosexuals are sinners; just using the lingo relevant to that system.)

 

[phoenixthoth]

"Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

just out of curiosity, if the bible said to jump off a bridge, would you do it?