Motocross: Physics of the Scrub

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The discussion revolves around the physics of the "scrub" technique in motocross, specifically why it is considered faster than hitting jumps upright. Participants explore various explanations, including mathematical proofs and physical principles related to trajectory and speed.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of "scrubbing," suggesting it involves flying over a flatter trajectory, which they believe is faster due to reduced flight time.
  • Another participant emphasizes that staying low and flat is crucial to the effectiveness of the scrub technique, referencing James Stewart's approach and asserting that it is the fastest way to fly.
  • A mathematical expression is provided to support the claim that higher jumps require a greater angle, which in turn reduces forward speed, thus favoring the scrub technique.
  • A link to an external article is shared, which discusses additional physics concepts related to the scrub and suggests further exploration of physics in other racing contexts.

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Participants express differing views on the explanations surrounding the scrub technique, with some proposing mathematical and physical reasoning while others question the definitions and implications. No consensus is reached regarding the validity of the various explanations.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of scrubbing and trajectory are not fully clarified, and the mathematical steps presented may depend on specific conditions that are not detailed in the discussion.

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Motocross: Physics of the "Scrub"

I was wondering why scrubbing over a jump proves to be faster than hitting the jump upright. James Stewart and many others have given poor, a likely false, explanations and some have provided logical explanations, but I wanted to see mathematical proof as to why it works.

I've attached a proof that I believe is pretty strong, but please check it out for yourself and let me know if there is anything wrong with it.

I was surprised to see in my example scenario the substantial difference in speed and time that comes from the technique.
 

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I am not sure what scrubbing means, it looks like it is flying over a flatter trajectory. Flatness determines how fast the flight ends: the flatter it is, the less time it takes. If two trajectories start and end at the same points, but one is flatter than another, then the flatter trajectory is faster. Unless I grossly misinterpret the meaning of "scrub", that's all there is to it.
 
bdub_24 said:
I was wondering why scrubbing over a jump proves to be faster than hitting the jump upright. James Stewart and many others have given poor, a likely false, explanations and some have provided logical explanations, but I wanted to see mathematical proof as to why it works.

I've attached a proof that I believe is pretty strong, but please check it out for yourself and let me know if there is anything wrong with it.

I was surprised to see in my example scenario the substantial difference in speed and time that comes from the technique.

I found that for scrubbing

Staying low and flat are the staples of Stewart’s technique, and when done correctly the Bubba Scrub is the fastest way to fly, bar none.

http://motocross.transworld.net/1000014563/photos/tuesday-tip-the-bubba-scrub/

As voko said, when you go higher, you need more time. Because if the speed of the motorcycle is the same in both cases, to jump higher you need to jump at greater angle and the forward speed will be less.

\mathtt{V_{forward}\ =\ \ V_{0}\cos{\alpha} }

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So you will be faster with scrubbing.
 
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