Who Reigns Supreme: Muggles or Wizards?

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The discussion centers on the hypothetical conflict between Muggles and Wizards in the Harry Potter universe. Key points include the Muggles' technological advancements, such as firearms and the atomic bomb, which give them a significant edge in combat scenarios. Wizards possess unique magical abilities that allow for stealth and offensive tactics, such as teleportation and mind control, but lack modern weaponry. Ultimately, while Wizards have advantages in stealth and magic, Muggles' technological capabilities could lead to a decisive victory in an all-out war.

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  • Understanding of Harry Potter lore, particularly spells and magical abilities.
  • Familiarity with Muggle technology, including firearms and military tactics.
  • Knowledge of guerrilla warfare strategies and their implications in conflict.
  • Awareness of the concept of magical concealment and its effects on Muggle perception.
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  • Research the implications of magic vs. technology in fictional narratives.
  • Explore guerrilla warfare tactics and their historical effectiveness.
  • Investigate the psychological impact of stealth and surprise in combat scenarios.
  • Analyze the role of innovation in both magical and technological advancements.
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This discussion is beneficial for fans of the Harry Potter series, writers exploring themes of conflict between magic and technology, and strategists interested in unconventional warfare tactics.

  • #31
James Holland said:
harry didn't use magic to get through.

also if wizards can teleport why do they need 9&3/4 to travel?
Harry was magic, both parents were wizards and he had done magic before arriving at the platform. If the passage didn't filter out muggles why even bother hiding it?
 
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  • #32
James Holland said:
harry didn't use magic to get through.

also if wizards can teleport why do they need 9&3/4 to travel?
Not all wizards can apparate. Especially children who haven't been to wizard school at all yet. The train is a portal to the school, allowing students to pass the wards without further filtering.
 
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  • #33
i suppose that that can't be argued with.
 
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  • #34
Just a SWAG on my part, but it makes sense, especially for the first years. The boys make an alternative arrival the second year, implying that they can get through the wards by then without a problem. The wards failed miserably when it allowed Dr. Who, I MEAN Barty Crouch, Jr., into the castle. Somebody should check that glitch and fix it.
 
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  • #35
The muggles would win the war because although their current technology my not be adapted to every wizard protection, they would adapt because they would know what to look for. The current technology is not perfect for fighting wizards because they have had no need to. Surely muggle ingenuity would allow for them to develop weapons designed for bringing down wizards. Also it is my understanding that muggles far outnumber wizards. It is likely some wizards will defect to the muggle side and help them develop weapons especially good at taking down wizards. Perhaps even the muggles would discover the science behind wizard "magic" and be able to utilize it with the power of science! Magic nukes! I have a lot of confidence in muggles ability to adapt and progress, with knowledge of wizards their magic related technology is sure to increase. I don't like to think of the wizards as a superior race, I like to think that they are equal but with different strengths and weaknesses that may not be obvious. That's just me. If they are equal than with proper strategy and superior numbers I think muggles would win in a war with wizards.
 
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  • #36
So, muggle science would be effective at countering wizard magic.

How would that work again?
 
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  • #37
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.
 
  • #38
jackwhirl said:
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.

Kill joy :)
 
  • #39
jackwhirl said:
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.
The aliens arrive and they're wizards. Game over for the muggle, who become auxiliary house elves, but without the perks.
 

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