Who Reigns Supreme: Muggles or Wizards?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical conflict between Muggles and Wizards, exploring their respective strengths, weaknesses, and strategies in a potential war scenario. Participants examine various aspects of magic and technology, including the implications of spells, weapons, and the nature of innovation within both communities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Muggles, through their technological advancements like the atomic bomb, may have an advantage over Wizards, who rely on magic.
  • Others contend that Wizards have shown innovation in their own right, citing examples like Snape's Sectumsempra and the Weasley Twins' magical inventions.
  • There is a discussion about the effectiveness of Wizards' offensive magic in close-quarters combat, suggesting they could potentially counter Muggle firearms.
  • Some participants propose various spells that could be used by Wizards to dominate Muggles, including the Imperius Curse, Polyjuice Potion, and Fiendfyre.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges Wizards would face in a direct confrontation with Muggles, particularly regarding modern military tactics and technology.
  • Participants speculate on the potential for Muggle-born Wizards to side with Muggles during a conflict, creating divisions within the Wizarding community.
  • There are differing views on whether Muggles could effectively locate and combat Wizards, given the hidden nature of the Wizarding world.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of Muggles successfully rooting out Wizards without prior knowledge of their secrets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the outcome of a conflict between Muggles and Wizards. Multiple competing views remain regarding the capabilities and strategies of both sides.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the full scope of magical abilities and the potential for Muggles to develop technologies to counteract Wizards. There are also unresolved questions about the implications of alliances within the Wizarding community.

  • #31
James Holland said:
harry didn't use magic to get through.

also if wizards can teleport why do they need 9&3/4 to travel?
Harry was magic, both parents were wizards and he had done magic before arriving at the platform. If the passage didn't filter out muggles why even bother hiding it?
 
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  • #32
James Holland said:
harry didn't use magic to get through.

also if wizards can teleport why do they need 9&3/4 to travel?
Not all wizards can apparate. Especially children who haven't been to wizard school at all yet. The train is a portal to the school, allowing students to pass the wards without further filtering.
 
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  • #33
i suppose that that can't be argued with.
 
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  • #34
Just a SWAG on my part, but it makes sense, especially for the first years. The boys make an alternative arrival the second year, implying that they can get through the wards by then without a problem. The wards failed miserably when it allowed Dr. Who, I MEAN Barty Crouch, Jr., into the castle. Somebody should check that glitch and fix it.
 
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  • #35
The muggles would win the war because although their current technology my not be adapted to every wizard protection, they would adapt because they would know what to look for. The current technology is not perfect for fighting wizards because they have had no need to. Surely muggle ingenuity would allow for them to develop weapons designed for bringing down wizards. Also it is my understanding that muggles far outnumber wizards. It is likely some wizards will defect to the muggle side and help them develop weapons especially good at taking down wizards. Perhaps even the muggles would discover the science behind wizard "magic" and be able to utilize it with the power of science! Magic nukes! I have a lot of confidence in muggles ability to adapt and progress, with knowledge of wizards their magic related technology is sure to increase. I don't like to think of the wizards as a superior race, I like to think that they are equal but with different strengths and weaknesses that may not be obvious. That's just me. If they are equal than with proper strategy and superior numbers I think muggles would win in a war with wizards.
 
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  • #36
So, muggle science would be effective at countering wizard magic.

How would that work again?
 
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  • #37
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.
 
  • #38
jackwhirl said:
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.

Kill joy :)
 
  • #39
jackwhirl said:
In the end, the winner is always going to be determined by the author. Whatever the scenario, there's always the potential for deus ex machina, whether via "science" or "because magic" to upend everything.
The aliens arrive and they're wizards. Game over for the muggle, who become auxiliary house elves, but without the perks.
 

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