Multiplication Rule in Probability

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The discussion revolves around the application of the multiplication rule in probability, specifically comparing two probability questions involving random selections and outcomes. The first question involves determining the probability that only one of three randomly selected individuals has a birthday on a Sunday, while the second question concerns the probability of rolling exactly one six when a fair die is thrown three times.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the reasoning behind their attempts to solve the first question, questioning whether the discrepancy between their answers and the textbook answer stems from a misunderstanding of the problem or an error in the textbook. They explore the arrangement of outcomes and the probabilities associated with success and failure in both questions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided their attempts at solving the problems and have engaged in a dialogue about the logic used in their calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made in the questions, particularly regarding the interpretation of success and failure in the context of the probability calculations. No explicit consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the textbook answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the wording of the questions appears similar, which raises questions about the correctness of the textbook answer for the first question. There is also a mention of potential confusion arising from the notation used in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



In order to highlight the problem I'm having here I have posted two questions, the answer for the second matches the textbook answer, the first does not. The wording of both questions appears to be the same. Have I gone wrong in the 1st question, or is the book incorrect?

Many thanks.

Q. 1. Three people were selected at random and asked on which day of the week their next birthday was falling. What is the probability that only one of the birthdays falls on a Sunday.

Q. 2. A fair die is thrown 3 times. Find the probability that there will be exactly one 6.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{7}^1\binom{6}{7}^2= \frac{108}{343}

Ans. 1.: (From textbook): \frac{36}{343}

Attempt 2: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{6}^1\binom{5}{6}^2= \frac{25}{72}
 
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odolwa99 said:

Homework Statement



In order to highlight the problem I'm having here I have posted two questions, the answer for the second matches the textbook answer, the first does not. The wording of both questions appears to be the same. Have I gone wrong in the 1st question, or is the book incorrect?

Many thanks.

Q. 1. Three people were selected at random and asked on which day of the week their next birthday was falling. What is the probability that only one of the birthdays falls on a Sunday.

Q. 2. A fair die is thrown 3 times. Find the probability that there will be exactly one 6.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{7}^1\binom{6}{7}^2= \frac{108}{343}

Ans. 1.: (From textbook): \frac{36}{343}

Attempt 2: P(X)=\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{6}^1\binom{5}{6}^2= \frac{25}{72}

What is the *logic* you used in getting your answer? In other words, why do you write what you did write? (BTW: I get your answer.)
 
In Q.1 The arrangement is P(S, F, F) + P(F, S, F) + P(F, F, S). Where F is fail, i.e. not the selected day, so 6/7. And S is success, i.e. the selected day, so 1/7. Then multiply the success as shown in the 1st sentence and add the 3 totals for the answer.

The same logic applies with question 2, except now the odds are that F = 5/6 & S = 1/6.

For the books answer to be correct, factor only a successful day for one outcome, and ignore the remaining 2. I'm assuming that this is what the question is aiming for?

In the second question, 3 separate die rolls means that 3 separate probabilities will be accounted for, not just the 1st.
 
You answers are correct. (Btw, it would be better not to use the same notation for both combinatorials and fractions. For the fractions use \frac{}{}.)
 
Ok, so the book is definitely wrong? Thanks.
 

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