Muon-Enhanced Atoms: Fusion Efficiencies Explored

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The discussion centers on the concept of muon-enhanced atoms and their potential implications for fusion efficiencies. Participants explore the effects of replacing electrons with muons in heavy atoms, the resulting changes in atomic structure, and the implications for fusion processes. The conversation includes theoretical considerations, relativistic effects, and the feasibility of muon-catalyzed fusion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that replacing an electron with a muon in heavy atoms could lead to smaller atomic radii and potentially more efficient fusion processes.
  • Others argue that the behavior of bound electrons and muons is not characterized by conventional motion, as their wave functions remain constant over time.
  • A participant mentions that the binding of muons could alter decay lifetimes and phase space, suggesting that muon capture might lead to different outcomes than expected.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of relativistic effects on atomic radii, with references to the Bohr model and relativistic quantum chemistry.
  • Some participants question the meaning of "more efficient" in the context of fusion and whether it applies to atoms or nuclei.
  • Muon-catalyzed fusion is mentioned, with a note that while it can catalyze multiple reactions, the energy cost of producing muons limits its practical application.
  • Questions arise regarding the interpretation of relativistic effects and how they relate to the original question about muon-enhanced atoms.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of muon replacement in atoms, the effects of relativistic speeds, and the feasibility of muon-catalyzed fusion. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of efficiency in fusion, the interpretation of relativistic effects, and the assumptions regarding the behavior of muons and electrons in atomic structures.

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Hello everyone,
I know that electrons in heavy atoms move at relativistic speeds, resulting in heavier electrons and smaller radius.
If we replace an electron in a heavy atom with a muon, the muon would move to the center (occupying the lowest energy state possible), and making the radius of the atom smaller (similar to the behavior of lambda baryons in a hypernucleus). Since the muon would move at relativistic speeds, the relativistic half life would be longer.
I have read somewhere that fusion with atoms that have smaller radii is more efficient, so wouldn't this method be efficient?
 
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Bound electrons and muons do not "move" in the usual sense. Their wave function is constant in time.

The binding reduces the available energy for the decay, which changes the phase space. In addition, those atoms can do muon capture (similar to electron capture, but with much more energy available). That means the lifetime can go down instead of up, see aluminium for example.

An additional muon in the center reduces the effective charge and increases the size of the other electron orbitals.
Garlic said:
I have read somewhere that fusion with atoms that have smaller radii is more efficient
"I have read somewhere" is not a useful source. And what does "more efficient" mean? Also, atoms or nuclei?

There is muon-catalyzed fusion of hydrogen (with just one charge you don't have other electrons hanging around). It works, and a muon can catalyze on average up to ~100 H2 molecules until it sticks to a produced helium nucleus and gets lost. That is not enough to be used in a power plant, producing the muon costs too much energy.
 
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I understand.

mfb said:
Bound electrons and muons do not "move" in the usual sense. Their wave function is constant in time.
Doesn't the bohr radius get smaller in relativistic atoms because the electrons have higher relativistic masses?
Quote from wikipedia -relativistic quantum chemistry- "For gold with (Z = 79) the 1s electron will be going (α = 0.58c) 58% of the speed of light. Plugging this in for v/c for the relativistic mass one finds that mrel = 1.22me and in turn putting this in for the Bohr radius above one finds that the radius shrinks by 22%."

Don't muons experience time even when they are delocalised? If they aren't, they wouldn't be decaying.

Where am I wrong?
 
Garlic said:
Doesn't the bohr radius get smaller in relativistic atoms because the electrons have higher relativistic masses?
The inner orbitals shrink due to relativistic effects (relative to a world without special relativity), but that's not the situation you asked about here. You add a muon to an existing atom.
 
I am sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "relative to a world without special relativity".
 
Well, what does "the radius decreases" mean? Decreases relative to what? It was never larger in our world. The radius would be larger if there would be no relativistic effects. But there are.
 
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