Music Learning: Appreciating Quality, Engaging in the Process

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a request for paraphrasing sentences related to music education, specifically focusing on the appreciation of quality in music and the engagement in the learning process. Participants explore the implications of these sentences in the context of an upcoming exam.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help with paraphrasing sentences for an exam, expressing a lack of understanding.
  • Another participant suggests that they cannot do the homework but encourages sharing any paraphrases for feedback.
  • A participant questions the appropriateness of seeking writing advice on a physics forum.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the request, implying that it may be an attempt to get answers rather than engage with the material.
  • One participant offers tips on breaking down the sentences for better understanding rather than providing direct paraphrases.
  • Another participant provides a paraphrase of the first statement, emphasizing the connection between music appreciation and recognizing quality in other art forms.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the request and whether it is for personal understanding or an assignment requirement.
  • A later reply indicates that the original requestor may have successfully completed the exam, suggesting they understood the material despite the initial request for help.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that they cannot complete the homework for the requester. However, there is disagreement regarding the appropriateness of using the forum for writing assistance, and uncertainty about the intent behind the request persists.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concern about the timing of the request, noting that waiting until the last minute to seek help may not be effective. There is also a distinction made between providing help and doing the work for someone else.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the intersection of music education and writing, as well as those seeking insights into collaborative learning processes in online forums.

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could you please paraphrase these sentences for me? i have an en exam tomorrow but i know nothing!:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: i really appreciate your help!:redface:

"the study of music teaches people to appreciate quality- those products of human creativity that represent the highest order of thinking, feeling, and technical achievement."

"through music, people become engaged in the learning process and develop keener insights into how knowledge, skills, attitudes, feelings, and the sences interrellate.":confused:
 
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We're not allowed to do people's homework for them. Post the paraphraqses you've come up with, though, and people can offer pointers.
 
I'd love to help you, lad, but I don't know anything about music.
 
I'm curious to know if this person subscribed to PF only for solutions.
 
Going on PF does not seem to me to be the best way to get advice on writing.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Going on PF does not seem to me to be the best way to get advice on writing.

I certainly wouldn't think so either.

You can always go to a translating website, and translate it to another laugauge then back to english, and it will be different, hence paraphrasing. :rolleyes:
 
En_lizard said:
could you please paraphrase these sentences for me? i have an en exam tomorrow but i know nothing!:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: i really appreciate your help!:redface:
First, no, we can't do your assignment for you. Second, in the future, it's best not to wait until the very last minute (night before an exam) to ask for help. If you keep up with the assignments all along and ask about stuff you don't understand right away, you have more time to learn it, and more time to wait for responses (especially if you're going to ask for help with music or English on a Physics Forum :-p).

I'm not sure what you're getting hung up on in these sentences. Here are a few tips, and that's all I can offer:
"the study of music teaches people to appreciate quality- those products of human creativity that represent the highest order of thinking, feeling, and technical achievement."
Everything following the hyphen is defining the term "quality" as used by the writer of the sentence. So, the main sentence is simply, "The study of music teaches people to appreciate quality."

"through music, people become engaged in the learning process and develop keener insights into how knowledge, skills, attitudes, feelings, and the sences interrellate.":confused:
I think the trouble you're having here is that the sentence is just long. It would probably have been best broken into two separate sentences. Sentence #1 would end before "...and..." Sentence #2 would share the same conditional clause, subject and verb as sentence #1, and then everything following "...and..." Since I'm not sure if this is for an English or music assignment, I'll leave it to you to know the grammar.
 
I assume our reptilian friend is asking us to paraphrase these statements for him/her so that (s)he can understand them better, thus be better prepared for his/her exam.

The first statement appears to be the general one that exposure to art improves your mind by enabling you to appreciate the skill and inspiration of compositions and recognise such skill elsewhere. So by studying music you learn to appreciate why it is such an achievement, then enabling you to recognise quality in other works. And someone who appreciates quality in music is more likely to appreciate it in other arts, such as literature and cinema.
 
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El Hombre just gave a nice paraphrase, but until I'm sure if the person is studying music or English (i.e., if they need the sentences paraphrased for their own understanding or the assignment is to paraphrase them), I've temporarily deleted that reply. If we get clarification that this is for a music class, any mentor online can "undelete" and restore that reply. :smile:
 
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Just go somewhere else. Try something like (link deleted) which is not a physics-specific site and does not have moderators for whom the words 'benefit of doubt' hold no meaning. I've never used (site name deleted) myself, but my girlfriend has found it very useful.

Edit by Moonbear: Sorry, but that site simply provides answers, not help. We will not sponsor a link to such a site here as it is completely inconsistent with our philosophy of offering homework HELP, not doing people's homework for them.
 
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but if we liked you we'd do your homework for you. You are batting a thousand on the "improper posts" tonight aren't you. If a kid ever asks me how to act I'm just going to point at moonbear.
 
  • #13
I wonder how the exam went. :rolleyes: I think our semi-suicidal social outcast has given up on us.
 
  • #14
Well, since the date of the exam passed and he never got back to us, I guess I'll undelete your answer for whatever good it's worth now. (I was kind of hoping he'd reply yesterday so I'd know to reveal it or not). :rolleyes:
 
  • #15
i guess i passed my exam with an A. you know i just wanted you to say it in other words. i myself knew what it meant. :rolleyes: i guess thanks anyway!
 

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