Mysteries of Geometric Optics In MTW Chapter 22

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The discussion revolves around geometric optics in curved spacetime as presented in MTW Chapter 22. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the introduction of a parameter ε in the context of vector potential amplitude and its implications for the calculations that follow.

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  • The original poster questions the validity of modifying the amplitude with ε and its impact on the rate of variation compared to the original vector potential. They seek clarification on the reasoning behind this approach and its implications for subsequent terms in the calculations.

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Some participants provide insights into the purpose of the parameter ε, suggesting it serves as a tagging mechanism for the order of terms in λ/L. Others draw parallels to established methods in physics, such as the eikonal expansion and WKB approximation, indicating that these concepts may help clarify the original poster's concerns.

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There is mention of the potential for alternative methods that do not require the introduction of ε, as well as references to external literature that may provide further understanding of the discussed concepts.

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I really don't understand what is going on here - can anyone shed any light please?
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At the start of this section §22.5 (Geometric Optics in curved Spacetime), the amplitude of the vector potential is given as:

A = ##\mathfrak R\{Amplitude \ X \ e^{i\theta}\} ##

The Amplitude is then re=expressed a "two-length-scale" expansion (fine!) but it then is modified further to (22.25) by
introducing a "useful" parameter ε...
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But this amplitude is now varying at a quite different rate (if ε is anything other than unity) so it isn't equivalent to the original vector potential.

When we get into the calculations, (22.7) is readily derived but I have a problem with the gathering terms O(##\frac {1}{ε}##) or O(ε) etc because, if ε reverts to its eventual value unity thereby recovering the original rate of variation, justification for (22.28) and (22.9) looks a bit thin.

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Can anyone explain what is going on here and why this is all reasonable?

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TerryW
 
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The introduction of the parameter ##\varepsilon## is just a convenient way to "tag" the various terms so that the power of ##\varepsilon## immediately tells you the order of the term in λ/L. A term with ##\varepsilon^2## is second order in λ/L even when ##\varepsilon = 1##. If you want, you could forgo introducing ##\varepsilon##. But, then, you would need to remember that ##a^\mu## is zero order in λ/L, ##b^\mu## is first order, ##c^\mu## is second order, ##\theta## is order -1,etc. When MTW "collect terms of order ##\epsilon^n##", they are just collecting terms of order (λ/L)n, which you could do even if you didn't introduce ##\varepsilon##.
 
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It's not different from the usual eikonal expansion in standard Maxwell theory in flat space. Perhaps it helps to read about this first, e.g., in A. Sommerfeld, Lectures on Theoretical Physics, vol. 4 (optics).

In quantum mechanics a mathematically equivalent procedure is known as WKB approximation. There it's an expansion in powers of ##\hbar##.

The mathematical procedure is known as "singular perturbation theory".
 
TSny said:
The introduction of the parameter ##\varepsilon## is just a convenient way to "tag" the various terms so that the power of ##\varepsilon## immediately tells you the order of the term in λ/L. A term with ##\varepsilon^2## is second order in λ/L even when ##\varepsilon = 1##. If you want, you could forgo introducing ##\varepsilon##. But, then, you would need to remember that ##a^\mu## is zero order in λ/L, ##b^\mu## is first order, ##c^\mu## is second order, ##\theta## is order -1,etc. When MTW "collect terms of order ##\epsilon^n##", they are just collecting terms of order (λ/L)n, which you could do even if you didn't introduce ##\varepsilon##.
Thanks TSny,

I'd already decided that I didn't need ##\varepsilon## and that I could get to all the results by "remembering" the order of the terms, but your reply is helpful in reassuring me that I wan't missing something crucial.

CheersTerry
 
vanhees71 said:
It's not different from the usual eikonal expansion in standard Maxwell theory in flat space. Perhaps it helps to read about this first, e.g., in A. Sommerfeld, Lectures on Theoretical Physics, vol. 4 (optics).

In quantum mechanics a mathematically equivalent procedure is known as WKB approximation. There it's an expansion in powers of ##\hbar##.

The mathematical procedure is known as "singular perturbation theory".
Thanks for replying vanhees71,

I'll see if I can find something about the WKB approximation or singular perturbation theory - it doesn't look like I can get a free download of Sommerfield Vol IV. Maybe I can find something in my ancient copy of the Feynman lectures.RegardsTerry W