MHB Natural Numbers ⊆/⊄ Rationals: Infinite & Uncountable Sets

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The discussion centers around the relationship between natural numbers and rational numbers, specifically whether the set {x/(x+1) : x∈N} is a subset of Q. Participants are asked to determine if this set is a subset (⊆) or not (⊄) of rational numbers. Additionally, the conversation explores which sets are infinite and uncountable, including the set of real numbers minus rational numbers (R - Q) and the Cartesian product of natural numbers (N*N). The participants also discuss the countability of the real numbers (R) and rational numbers (Q). The thread highlights key concepts in set theory and the nature of different number sets.
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Question 1) Write ⊆ or ⊄:

{x/(x+1) : x∈N} ________ QNOTE:
⊆ means SUBSET
⊄ means NOT A SUBSET
∈ means ELEMENT
N means Natural Numbers
Q means Rational Numbers

Question 2)
Which of the following sets are infinite and uncountable?
R - Q
{n∈N: gcd(n,15) = 3}
(-2,2)
N*N
{1,2,9,16,...} i.e the set of perfect squares
 
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KOO said:
Question 1) Write ⊆ or ⊄:

{x/(x+1) : x∈N} ________ QNOTE:
⊆ means SUBSET
⊄ means NOT A SUBSET
∈ means ELEMENT
N means Natural Numbers
Q means Rational Numbers

Question 2)
Which of the following sets are infinite and uncountable?
R - Q
{n∈N: gcd(n,15) = 3}
(-2,2)
N*N
{1,2,9,16,...} i.e the set of perfect squares
1) Is x/(x + 1), when x is a natural number, a rational number?

2) Is R countable? Is Q countable?

-Dan
 
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