Navigating a Tough Choice: Accepting an Offer from MIT

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The discussion revolves around the ethical considerations and personal implications of a student deciding whether to leave their current Ph.D. program for an acceptance at MIT. Participants explore the emotional, ethical, and practical aspects of making such a transition, including the impact on current commitments and future opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that leaving for a better opportunity like MIT is not unethical, emphasizing personal growth and career advancement.
  • Others caution about the commitments made to the current institution, noting that ethical considerations may vary based on individual circumstances.
  • A participant suggests finishing the current semester before making a transfer decision, highlighting the importance of timing and communication with the current advisor.
  • Concerns are raised about the fit at MIT, with some participants recommending visiting the campus and connecting with potential advisors before making a decision.
  • Financial implications are discussed, with MIT offering full financial support, which some participants view as a significant factor in the decision-making process.
  • There is a mention of potential resentment from faculty at the current institution if the student leaves, likening the situation to quitting a job for a better one.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of the current advisor and research environment, suggesting that these factors should weigh heavily in the decision.
  • One participant notes that the student is not legally bound to stay at their current institution despite having a three-year appointment, suggesting flexibility in their decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the decision to leave for MIT is complex and involves weighing personal aspirations against commitments. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the ethical implications and the importance of current relationships and responsibilities, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the specific terms of the current appointment and the potential impact of transferring on the student's academic trajectory. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the significance of personal fit at MIT versus the prestige of the institution.

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Students considering transferring between graduate programs, particularly those weighing the ethical implications of such decisions and the impact on their academic and professional futures.

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In June 2007 I applied for a Ph.D. to some universities for Spring 2008.Up to November 2007, I didn't get any response from these universities. This in turn motivated me to apply for fall 2008. In spite of my despair , I applied to the top universities for the fall term.

Howevre,one of the spring universities ( a middle rank one) has offered me a research assitanship and I accepted the offer and actually started my research and classes. I'm very statified with my research and advisor and in my opinion it is a top class research in my area of speciality.

Surprisingly , I received today an e-mail from MIT( the top ranked institute in my research area) that include my acceptance to the fall term!

Is it ethical to leave my current school and ignore the money which has been spent on my tuition and evenually go to MIT?

I'm really confused about this. My dream was to study in such a great institute but I'm also convinced that adhering to ethics is also a very valuable thing.

What do you think?What are you going to do if you were in my place?
 
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When I accepted my offer to the school I'm going to attend, they made me sign a statement saying that I had only accepted to attend that school. I think you have some very real concerns in your case. People turn down great offers all the time when they apply to multiple schools, but once you've already committed to one place then the situation becomes much different. On the other hand, universities can't really force you legally to stay anywhere.

You want my personal opinion? Go for what's best for you. You don't really owe anything to anywhere.
 
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Just finish this semester and then tell your advisor you're transferring. Go to MIT!
 
Is your current appointment letter at your current institution for just the Spring semester?
If so, then you have no commitment for the subsequent semesters.

If your appointment is longer, you can still leave if you wish.
However,... some things to keep in mind.

How do you find your coursework?
Qualifying exams... have you taken them already?

If you have a good advisor, a good problem, and good resources to work on your problem, then you are probably in good shape already.

Of course, nothing stops you from transferring.

You might want to visit MIT [possibly at their expense] and see for yourself if that is really where you want to be and can be successful there. While the name and reputation is great... will it be a good fit for YOU?

Do you know for a fact that you can work with a particular person there?
(You probably don't want to get there to find yourself stranded. Do you have a plan B?)
What financial support have you been offered?

Good luck in your decision.
 
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there is nothing unethical about it. Is it not that you get in because you have some "connections" or load of $$$. But as some previous posters said, you must work out whether it would be a good switch... advisor wise, coursework wise, etc.

I am sure your current advisors and colleagues would be very proud of you if you succeed at MIT. We use to have a few guys here who only spent 8 months or a year with us before moving onto Havard, Cornell and Oxford... and we simply keep bragging that we know someone at Harvard/Oxford! :)
 
-My appointment in my current institution is for 3 years .The financial aid is guranteed in the first year and is renewed upon satisfactory performance.

-I'm taking three classes and doing well in them, I was also planning to take the qualifuing exam this summer(it is offered in summer only).

-I do really have a good advisor and a good problem and the atmosphere in my current institute is very resourceful.

-I'm not sure that MIT is a good fit for me. But I'm sure that a plcae like MIT where good students from all over the world come to learn and exchange ideas should be an optimum place to learn. Also The Boston-Cambridge universitied surrounding MIT (needless to say including Harvard) should also be a very resourceful environment.

-I've have not been assigned to an advisor in MIT.

MIT has offered full financial support in the form of teaching assitanship (tuition+fees+stipend+insurance). This is for one year and renewed upon satisfactory perfromance.
 
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-My appointment in my current institution is for 3 years .The financial aid is guranteed in the first year and is renewed upon satisfactory performance.

-I'm taking three classes and doing well in them, I was also planning to take the qualifuing exam this summer(it is offered in summer only).

You may have to take the MIT qualifying exam. Ask.

Useful nucleus said:
-I do really have a good advisor and a good problem and the atmosphere in my current institute is very resourceful.

In my opinion, these aspects are most important...wherever you are.

Useful nucleus said:
-I'm not sure that MIT is a good fit for me. But I'm sure that a plcae like MIT where good students from all over the world come to learn and exchange ideas should be an optimum place to learn. Also The Boston-Cambridge universitied surrounding MIT (needless to say including Harvard) should also be a very resourceful environment.

Certainly, Cambridge MA is a great place...
but the goal is to complete a PhD.

Useful nucleus said:
-I've have not been assigned to an advisor in MIT.

One is rarely assigned an advisor at this stage.
It's up to you to make that connection.
You may want to contact some faculty members and find out more about their research and research opportunities available to you.


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MIT has offered full financial support in the form of teaching assitanship (tuition+fees+stipend+insurance). This is for one year and renewed upon satisfactory perfromance.

While teaching can be a good thing [and is a skill that many graduate students neglect to develop], it does take time away from research. While you may get a research assistantship there someday, you have to work your way to it... By contrast, you have one now at your current institution.
 
Do what is best for you. You are not required to stay at your institution for three years, even if they gave you a "three year" plan.

You could drop out. You could find employment. You could change career paths. Why should "You could go to your dream school" not be on the list of good reasons to leave?
 
I agree with most of the advice, that you need to first determine what you agreed to by accepting a slot at your current institution.

We occasionally have students switch to other schools after attending here for a year or so- although there is nothing wrong with it, per se, it does cause some resentment within the faculty. This may or may not be a problem for the student- the research community is not that big, and you end up dealing with the same few people over and over again.

To some degree, it's just like quitting a job for a better one. The good guys will miss you, but understand your desire to excel and wish you the best of luck. The bad ones will resent you 'leaving them behind'.
 
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Thank you all for your input. It was really of great help !

I took the decision to MIT and I should discuss this with my current advisor soon , so that he can get a new student in a suitable time for him.

Again , thank you for help!
 

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