Near-Death Experience: Investigating Theoretical Implications

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A nurse recounted a remarkable near-death experience involving a comatose patient who accurately described events occurring during his resuscitation, including details about his dentures and the CPR process, despite being in a deep coma. The discussion raises questions about the lack of scientific investigation into such experiences, which some dismiss as mere hallucinations caused by hypoxia. Critics argue that anecdotal evidence should not be disregarded, as it could lead to significant insights into the relationship between perceptual and metaphysical realities. There is a call for a more open-minded approach to studying these phenomena, as they may provide valuable observational data. The conversation highlights the tension between anecdotal claims and scientific skepticism regarding near-death experiences.
  • #91


ZapperZ said:
I don't get it. Finding out "what it is" is not the same as "studying the NDE scientifically"? There are other ways to find out what something is unambiguously that everyone can agree on? Really?
Strawman.
I'm all for studying it. Check the fact that I've cited extensive scientific studies of various aspects of NDE! The more we study it, the more we will realize that (i) the brain isn't always reliable (ii) we are easily fooled and (iii) that these NDE observations do need any "supernatural" explanations.
Neurology is already way beyond these trivial points. The fact a given phenomenon is not supernatural appears incidentally from studying what it is. Undertaking a study with the agenda of proving something is not supernatural is not something neurological researchers do. Anything generated by strong confirmation bias like that would naturally be suspect. Their agenda, rather, is simply to find out what it is, what neurological mechanism underlies the experience.
 
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  • #92


I don't see the point in discussing this since this entire forum will disappear after tomorrow.
 
  • #93
Evo said:
I don't see the point in discussing this since this entire forum will disappear after tomorrow.

Sorry for being off-topic, but ongoing discussions in S&D will be continued in GD right? Or will they be locked away?
 
  • #94


zoobyshoe said:
Strawman.

Ambiguous.

Neurology is already way beyond these trivial points. The fact a given phenomenon is not supernatural appears incidentally from studying what it is. Undertaking a study with the agenda of proving something is not supernatural is not something neurological researchers do. Anything generated by strong confirmation bias like that would naturally be suspect. Their agenda, rather, is simply to find out what it is, what neurological mechanism underlies the experience.

I don't see how that differs from what I was saying. *I* was the one who suggested that, TO ME, the more one studies it, the more that I find the claim of anything supernatural to be even less convincing. That has been the pattern we have seen so far! I certainly hate to put my thought into what neuro-scientists were thinking.

Zz.
 
  • #95


surajt88 said:
Sorry for being off-topic, but ongoing discussions in S&D will be continued in GD right? Or will they be locked away?
ALL S&D threads will be locked. The new forum is due to open tomorrow.
 
  • #96


Evo said:
ALL S&D threads will be locked. The new forum is due to open tomorrow.
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  • #97


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6b3V2MNxQ
 
  • #98


Bye S&D!
 

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