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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for monitoring the noise frequency of mechanical objects to detect changes in their acoustic signatures. Participants explore various equipment and techniques that could facilitate this monitoring, including audio spectrum analyzers and vibration analyzers, as well as alternative methods like thermal imaging.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using an audio spectrum analyzer to capture the frequency of mechanical sounds, mentioning the availability of smartphone apps for basic analysis.
  • Another participant references the ability to measure the "acoustic signature" of submarines, proposing that similar techniques could be applied to monitor mechanical systems.
  • Specific applications for acoustic monitoring in various fields, such as industrial automation and medical bioacoustics, are mentioned as examples of existing research and tools.
  • A participant recommends the Fluke 810 Vibration Analyzer, noting its effectiveness in monitoring electric motor bearings, while also indicating that it is a costly option.
  • Another approach discussed involves using thermal imaging to detect temperature increases in mechanical systems, which may indicate potential failures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches and tools for monitoring sound frequencies, but there is no consensus on a single method or equipment. Various techniques are suggested, indicating a range of opinions on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the terminology related to sound and frequency monitoring, and there are no settled definitions or methods discussed. The effectiveness of suggested tools may depend on specific applications and contexts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for engineers, researchers, and technicians interested in acoustic monitoring, predictive maintenance, and related fields in mechanical and biological systems.

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I am looking to find a way to monitor a mechanical objects noise frequency. The end result would be the ability to see when the sound changes.

Here's my thought process:

A mechanical object that is making repetitious movements, would generate a particular 'sound' or 'frequency' within a particular range, on a consistent basis. If that objects signature changes, that would indicate a change in the object creating the sound.

So what type of equipment could be purchased, made, designed to facilitate capturing the 'signature/sound/frequency' I am looking for?

I never got too involved with sounds/frequency so I'm not sure what terminology to use here either.

Any advice on where to look, what to look for, or even the proper terminology to use would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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baketrab said:
I am looking to find a way to monitor a mechanical objects noise frequency. The end result would be the ability to see when the sound changes.

Here's my thought process:

A mechanical object that is making repetitious movements, would generate a particular 'sound' or 'frequency' within a particular range, on a consistent basis. If that objects signature changes, that would indicate a change in the object creating the sound.

So what type of equipment could be purchased, made, designed to facilitate capturing the 'signature/sound/frequency' I am looking for?

I never got too involved with sounds/frequency so I'm not sure what terminology to use here either.

Any advice on where to look, what to look for, or even the proper terminology to use would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Welcome to the PF.

The keywords here are "audio spectrum analyzer"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_analyzer

You can even get smartphone apps that will do basic audio spectrum analysis...
 
You may find it useful to research how others have already done (and are doing) what you're asking about. We can measure the "acoustic signature" of a submarine in such detail so as to identify the name and number of that particular submarine.

Here are two applications using acoustics to monitor mechanical/biological systems:

Spectral Analysis of Acoustic Vibrations on the Surface of the Human Body
http://www.zainea.com/humanvibrations.htm

Sound Recognition Lab (SRLab) is an interactive pattern-formation and pattern-recognition application for acoustics. It is made for engineers and researchers who deal with complex acoustic systems and/or large quantities of audio data in:
Industrial automation
Animal bioacoustics
Medical bioacoustics
Noise analysis
Phonetics and neuro-science
http://www.sejona.org/srlab.php
 
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Not trying to sell anything but Fluke makes a Vibration Analyzer that does just about what you were asking.
It's called the Fluke 810, there are videos on youtube showing it in operation, we use it at my facility to monitor electric motor bearings for failure, very nice unit. Capable. Not cheap though.
http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/vibration/fluke-810.htm?PID=56137
 
Another predictive maintenance baseline procedure that also works is thermo recordings. Take a infra red camera record the working temperatures. Increase of those temperatures indicate failures such as bad bearings etc. This can also be used on circuit breakers, if the circuit is 10 degrees above the room temperature its an indication of too large an amperage draw on that ciurcuit. Wortks on electronics as well.
 

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