Neuroscientist says PSAT score related to simple arithmetic skills

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The discussion centers around the relationship between PSAT scores and the cognitive processes involved in solving arithmetic problems. Participants explore how different brain functions may influence performance on standardized tests like the PSAT and SAT, considering aspects of arithmetic skills, problem-solving approaches, and the nature of the tests themselves.

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  • Some participants suggest that students who performed poorly on the PSAT may have overthought simple arithmetic problems by engaging the right hemisphere of the brain, while those who did better relied on fact-retrieval from the left hemisphere.
  • Others question whether the PSAT is more focused on straightforward calculations or conceptual problem-solving, comparing it to the SAT.
  • One participant posits that those accessing the left hemisphere were recalling learned facts, while those using the right hemisphere were attempting to derive answers from scratch, which they argue is more time-consuming.
  • Another participant reflects on their own experience with standardized tests, suggesting that the ability to quickly identify the correct problem-solving approach may correlate with IQ, although they express uncertainty about the nature of the PSAT compared to IQ tests.

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Participants express differing views on the cognitive processes involved in solving PSAT problems and whether the test measures straightforward skills or deeper conceptual understanding. No consensus is reached regarding the relationship between brain function and test performance.

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Participants acknowledge varying assumptions about the nature of the PSAT and SAT, including the definitions of cognitive processes and the implications of using different brain areas for problem-solving. There are unresolved questions about the relationship between these tests and IQ.

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Do I have this right? It sounds like the people who didn't do so well on the PSAT, who used their right brain, "overthought" the simple arithmetic problems, by using the (subjective?) quantity-related part of their brain. the students who did better used the fact-retrieval department.
 
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Pretty interesting. I have never taken a PSAT. Is it more about plugging and chugging equations or conceptually hard problems?
 
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tahayassen said:
Pretty interesting. I have never taken a PSAT. Is it more about plugging and chugging equations or conceptually hard problems?

Basically the same as the SAT. There will be some word problems that involve basic algebra, some basic geometry, etc.
 
Jamin2112 said:
Basically the same as the SAT. There will be some word problems that involve basic algebra, some basic geometry, etc.

I've never taken a SAT either. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that people who use the quantity part of their brain are looking for numbers to plug into equations while people using the fact-driven part of their brain are trying to solve the problem.
 
tahayassen said:
I've never taken a SAT either. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that people who use the quantity part of their brain are looking for numbers to plug into equations while people using the fact-driven part of their brain are trying to solve the problem.
I think it's the opposite. The people who accessed the left hemisphere area he mentioned were simply recalling the previously learned fact that 7-3=4, while those who accessed the right brain area that processes matters of quantity were the ones who were actually trying to figure out the difference between the two quantities, 7 and 3 from scratch. The latter is much more time and energy consuming.

It sounds to me like the moral is: the people who do better on the PSAT would be those who don't have to re-invent the wheel each time a wheel is called for. They just pull one off the shelf.
 
I assume the SAT is something like an IQ test? I always found that I went really slowly with a lot of them because I was trying out lots of possible ways of solving it, but I assume that being able to know automatically which way is right way is related to IQ. I mean IQ is the thing that an IQ test measures... If the PSAT is something completely different then disregard this, obviously!
 

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