Neutrino/anti-neutrino interactions on video

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The discussion revolves around the visualization of neutrino interactions in detectors, specifically whether videos of such interactions exist and the implications of the observed data. Participants explore the nature of neutrino detection, the characteristics of the data collected, and the interpretation of visual representations of neutrino interactions.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of videos showing neutrino interactions in detectors, suggesting that the interactions should create visible tracks over time.
  • Another participant asserts that such a video cannot be made, explaining that neutrinos are emitted isotropically from sources like the Sun and nuclear reactors.
  • A different participant questions the initial inquiry, asking for clarification on what is meant by "seeing" neutrino interactions, noting that neutrinos are detected through their interactions with matter, which produce detectable signals.
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the uneven distribution of detected signals in a photo of neutrino interactions, questioning why there appears to be a flattening in the distribution of detected pixels.
  • Another participant suggests that the perceived unevenness is due to the angular resolution of the detector, which varies based on direction.
  • Further contributions note that the movement of the Sun affects how different parts of the detector perceive neutrinos over time, leading to varying resolutions.
  • Some participants engage in a light-hearted exchange regarding the interpretation of frames of reference in relation to the detector's movement.
  • There is a mention of Aristotelian physics in a humorous context, with a participant acknowledging its outdated nature in light of modern science.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the visualization of neutrino interactions and the implications of the data collected. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the uneven distribution of detected signals or the nature of the detector's movement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the understanding of neutrino detection, including the dependence on angular resolution and the isotropic nature of neutrino emissions. The discussion reflects varying interpretations and assumptions about the data presented in neutrino detection images.

David Berger
Has anybody seen any neutrino interactions on video on the Internet where you can see the interactions that have taken place in a neutrino detectors?

I know that the interactions in most neutrino detectors is spaced out over time (that come from the same location), but it seems to me that over a month to several months the computer generated interactions being tracked should look quite spectacular and leave "definite" tracks and trails going in all directions with more than 500 nuclear power plants on Earth.

It seems like to me that there should be a tremendous beam piercing through the neutrino detector showing where the Sun is. As a matter of fact, it should look like the Sun has sliced open the neutrino detector in halves since the Earth rotates, whereas nuclear power plants detected would look like spears of light shafts.

Anybody seen such a video?
 
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No, you cannot make such a video.

In addition, the Sun does not send a "beam" of neutrinos through the detector. It radiates neutrinos isotropically in all directions. The same holds true for nuclear reactors.

The closest you can get is the "neutrino photo" of the Sun taken by the Super-Kamiokande collaboration:
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David Berger said:
Has anybody seen any neutrino interactions on video on the Internet where you can see the interactions that have taken place in a neutrino detectors?

I know that the interactions in most neutrino detectors is spaced out over time (that come from the same location), but it seems to me that over a month to several months the computer generated interactions being tracked should look quite spectacular and leave "definite" tracks and trails going in all directions with more than 500 nuclear power plants on Earth.

It seems like to me that there should be a tremendous beam piercing through the neutrino detector showing where the Sun is. As a matter of fact, it should look like the Sun has sliced open the neutrino detector in halves since the Earth rotates, whereas nuclear power plants detected would look like spears of light shafts.

Anybody seen such a video?

What exactly do you mean by "... seen any neutrino interactions..."? Is this like asking has anyone seen an electron?

We detect neutrinos via its interaction with matter, which usually produces an ejection of a relativistic electron. This electron THEN produces a Cerenkov radiation if it is traveling in a medium such as water. It is this radiation that we detect.

So, knowing this, do you want to reformulate your question?

Zz.
 
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Thanks Orodrium, I really like the photo that was taken. No wonder why I haven't seen any computer generated videos of the interactions of neutrinos on the Internet.

and, Thanks ZapperZ

Now... can anyone tell me why... if you look at the photo, you will definitely see that the blue pixels aren't completely equally round going around the center mass, meaning that there are more of them across the photo than there is going up and down in the photo. You can see this happening in the red pixels also, but you might have to use a scale (ruler) to make sure your eyes aren't playing tricks on you. I'd think that the different colors should be equally concentric around the center mass. I've noticed this many times before. The question is why is there a flattening?
 
You are clearly overinterpreting what you see. Most of the spread here is actually due to the angular resolution of the detector.
 
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...and this angular resolution depends on the direction as well. In some directions the resolution can be better than in others as the detector is not spherical.
 
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mfb said:
In some directions the resolution can be better than in others

And the sun is moving, so it is seen by different parts of the detector with different resolutions over time.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
And the sun is moving, so it is seen by different parts of the detector with different resolutions over time.
I always considered it to be the detector that is rotating. To each their preferred frame I guess. :smile:
 
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If it's good enough for Aristotle, it's good enough for me!
 
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Well, to say it carefully, Aristotelian physics is somewhat outdated, given what happened for the last ~400 years of modern natural sciences.
 
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<foghorn leghorn>It's a joke son, I say it's a joke. </foghorn leghorn>
 

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