How Does the T2K Experiment Detect Neutrino Oscillations?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of the T2K experiment, specifically how it detects neutrino and antineutrino oscillations. Participants explore the methods of producing and detecting these particles, as well as the challenges involved in distinguishing them from other sources of neutrinos.

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  • Jeff inquires about the physical process of firing a beam of (anti)neutrinos and how the detector differentiates them from other neutrinos.
  • One participant suggests that (anti)neutrinos could be produced by beta-decaying radioactive materials, but acknowledges uncertainty about the detection process.
  • Another participant describes the T2K neutrino production process involving high-energy protons, pions, and the use of magnetic fields to focus the resulting neutrinos or antineutrinos.
  • A later reply challenges the idea of using beta decay for producing a neutrino beam, emphasizing that the accelerator method is necessary for generating a detectable beam of neutrinos.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability of the Super-Kamiokande detector to distinguish between neutrinos from the experiment and cosmic neutrinos, with some participants suggesting that energy levels and directional consistency may aid in this differentiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods of producing (anti)neutrinos, with some supporting the accelerator-based approach while others propose alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal means of detection and the effectiveness of the proposed methods.

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There are limitations in the understanding of the detection mechanisms and the assumptions about the energy levels and sources of neutrinos. The discussion highlights the complexity of neutrino interactions and the challenges in experimental setups.

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I am completely unschooled here, so go a bit easy, if you would.

My question(s) involves the actual mechanics of the T2K neutrino/antineutrino experiment that was written up here on Aug. 8.

I have a hard time understanding the process described here:

"To explore the (anti)neutrino flavour changes, known as osciallations, the T2K experiment fires a beam of (anti)neutrinos from the J-PARC laboratory at Tokai Village on the eastern coast of Japan.

It then detects them at the Super-Kamiokande detector, 295 km away in the mountains of the north-western part of the country. Here, the scientists look to see if the (anti)neutrinos at the end of the beam matched those emitted at the start."

1. How is the beam of (anti)neutrinos physically fired?

2. How does the detector differentiate the "fired" (anti)neutrinos from regular(?) (anti)neutrinos?

With thanks,

JeffRead more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-08-evidence-mounts-neutrinos-key-universe.html#jCp
 
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I don't exactly know how are doing that, but in my opinion "firing (anti)neutrinos" is simply achievable just by putting some beta decaying radioactive material in the other side.
Beta decaying radioactive material decay by emitting an electron or a positron, and an electron neutrino or an electron antineutrino, depending on which isotope they are.
For example, the Na22 isotope decays by emitting a positron and an electron neutrino. And Sr90 decays by emitting an electron and an electron antineutrino.

Neutrinos, by nature, oscillate into other flavours by time. In one end you fire electron neutrinos or antineutrinos, in the detector you count the number of electron, muon and tau neutrinos coming from the lab.

Again, I don't really know how the detector works, but;
The Super-Kamiokande detector is positioned deep under earth, so that other particles (cosmic radiation etc.) don't interfere with the experiment. In my opinion, the high energetic neutrinos coming from the space are more reactive than the low energy neutrinos, and can maybe be blocked by the Earth's surface. And most of the low energy neutrinos just pass through the whole earth, so that not many of them are detected in the detector.
On the other hand, the detector might help us differentiate between the experiment neutrinos and the cosmic neutrinos by comparing their kinetical energies and coming directions.
 
verve825 said:
How is the beam of (anti)neutrinos physically fired?
A Google search for "j-parc neutrino beam" led me to this page:

https://j-parc.jp/Neutrino/en/nu-facility.html

The mechanism described there is basically the same as the one Fermilab used when I participated in a (anti)neutrino experiment 35-40 years ago as a graduate student.

1. Fire a beam of high-energy protons into a target, which produces a lot of particles, mostly pions.
2. Use a magnetic field to select positive or negative pions and focus them so they're going more or less in the same direction. (the "horns" indicated on the diagram)
3. The pions decay into muons plus neutrinos (or antineutrinos, depending on whether the pions/muons are positive or negative)
4. Put something in the beam (a "beam dump") to absorb the muons and let the neutrinos or antineutrinos pass through.
 
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Many thanks to both of you for your responses- I appreciate your help.
Jeff
 
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Garlic said:
I don't exactly know how are doing that, but in my opinion "firing (anti)neutrinos" is simply achievable just by putting some beta decaying radioactive material in the other side.
That would not give a beam, the neutrino production rate would be completely negligible, and the neutrinos would be too low-energetic to distinguish them from other sources. The beam is produced via accelerators, as jtbell explained.
Garlic said:
The Super-Kamiokande detector is positioned deep under earth, so that other particles (cosmic radiation etc.) don't interfere with the experiment. In my opinion, the high energetic neutrinos coming from the space are more reactive than the low energy neutrinos, and can maybe be blocked by the Earth's surface. And most of the low energy neutrinos just pass through the whole earth, so that not many of them are detected in the detector.
Earth does not provide any relevant shielding against neutrinos. The detectors are underground to reduce the flux of other particles, in particular muons produced in the collisions of cosmic rays with our atmosphere - the rate of muons goes down significantly if you go underground.

The neutrinos from Tokai have a higher energy than most other neutrinos, they all come from the same direction. Both together allow to distinguish between those and neutrinos from other sources.
In addition, the accelerator does not run 24/7, while it is shut down you can count the neutrino rate to estimate the background from other sources, and subtract it from the rate measured while the accelerator is running.
 
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