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The discussion revolves around finding closed forms for a specific nonlinear recurrence relation, $\displaystyle a_{n+1}= a^{2}_{n}-1\ ;\ a_{0}=a$. Participants explore methods for solving nonlinear recurrence relations, analyze the behavior of the sequence generated by the relation, and discuss convergence and periodicity of solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Sylvia A. Anderson questions whether there are general methods for solving nonlinear recurrence relations and seeks information on convergence and limits.
  • One participant suggests that for specific values of $a$ (0, 1, -1), the sequence diverges, while for $|a| > 2$, it also diverges, providing examples of the sequence behavior.
  • Another participant reformulates the recurrence relation into a difference equation and identifies fixed points, noting the existence of one attractive fixed point and one repulsive fixed point.
  • This participant argues that most solutions diverge and suggests that a closed form solution likely does not exist, proposing the search for periodic solutions instead.
  • Periodic solutions are discussed, with specific values of $a$ leading to periodicity one and two, and conditions under which the solutions diverge or exhibit periodic behavior are outlined.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of closed form solutions and the behavior of the recurrence relation, with no consensus reached on these points.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific values of $a$, the complexity of the recurrence relation, and the unresolved nature of periodic solutions beyond those identified.

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Hi. This is my first post here so I hope I've posted in the right place. My question concerns finding closed forms of nonlinear recurrence relations such as the following...

$\displaystyle a_{n+1}= a^{2}_{n}-1\ ;\ a_{0}=a$ (1)

This one is both nonlinear and nonhomogeneous. The even terms do form a homogeneous recurrence relation, which is nonetheless still nonlinear. Are there general methods for solving particular types of nonlinear recurrence relations? I've tried googling but the results aren't very helpful...

Sylvia A. Anderson

How to aid Sylvia?... there is a closed form solution to (1)?... if not, there is the way to find some informations of the solution, like the convergence-divergence and the limit in case of convergence?...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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My ideas

if a=1 or 0 or -1
it will diverge
a_1 = 1 -1 = 0
a_2 = 0 -1 = -1
a_3 = 1 - 1= 0

if \mid a \mid > 2
diverge, i choose a=2
a_1 = 4-1 = 3
a_2 = 9 -1 = 8
I tried to see if it is increasing or decreasing

\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = 1
\frac{a_n ^2 - 1 }{a_n } = 1
a_n^2 - a_n -1 = 0 two zeros

a_n = \frac{1\mp \sqrt{1 +4}}{2}

decreasing between the two zeros, and increasing outside
 
Let's proceed as explained in...
http://www.mathhelpboards.com/showthread.php?426-Difference-equation-tutorial-draft-of-part-I

... so that the first step is to write the deifference equation in the alternative form...

$\displaystyle \Delta_{n}=a_{n+1}-a_{n}= a^{2}_{n}-a_{n}-1= f(a_{n})\ ;\ a_{0}=a$ (1)

The function f(*) is represented in the figure...

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/125._xfImport

There are one 'attractive fixed point' [ a point where is f(x)=0 and f(x) crosses the x-axis with negative slope...] at $\displaystyle x_{-}= \frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}$ and one 'repulsive fixed point' [a point where is f(x)=0 and f(x) crosses the x-axis with positive slope...] at $\displaystyle x_{+}= \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}$. The fact that there is an interval around $\displaystyle x_{-}$ where is $\displaystyle |f(x)|< |2\ (x_{-}-x)|$ however means that in general doesn't exist a solution which tends to $x_{-}$ [see theorems 4.1 and 4.2 of the tutorial post...] and 'almost all' the solutions diverge. As explained in the tutorial post a closed form solution of the (1) 'probably' doesn't exist and what we can do is the search of periodical solution. The solution of periodicity one are of course $a_{n}=x_{-}$ and $a_{n}=x_{+}$. The solution of periodicity two are generated for the values of a satisfying the equation...

$\displaystyle a^{4}-2\ a^{2}-a= a\ (a+1)\ (a^{2}-a-1)=0$ (2)

... that are $a=x_{-}$, $a+x_{+}$, $a=0$ and $a=-1$. The conclusion is the following...

a) for $\displaystyle |a|>x_{+}$ the solution diverges to $+ \infty$...

b) for $\displaystyle |a|<x_{+}\ , a \ne x_{-}$ the solution diverges but tends to the solution with periodicity two '0 -1 0 -1...'

c) for $ a=x_{-}$ we have the solution with periodicity one $x_{-}$ and for $ a=x_{+}$ we have the solution with periodicity one $x_{+}$...

Solutions with periodicity greater than two, if they exist, have to be found...

Kind regards



$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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wow, did i get 50% of the answer ?
 

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