Undergrad Noncommutative geometry and asymptotic safe gravity and MOND

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Recent papers explore the relationship between Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) and noncommutative geometry, as well as asymptotic safe gravity. The first paper proposes that noncommutative geometry could explain the flat rotation curves of galaxies, potentially eliminating the need for dark matter. The second paper discusses quantum corrections to the MOND potential within the framework of asymptotic safe gravity, estimating bounds on the circular velocity of spiral galaxies. While the first approach appears ad-hoc, the second offers intriguing insights without suggesting a revolutionary change. The discussions indicate ongoing interest in how these theories might interconnect and enhance understanding of gravitational phenomena.
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Noncommutative geometry and asymptotic safe gravity and MOND
I saw 2 recent papers on MOND

are they promising

[Submitted on 21 Jul 2022]

Noncommutative geometry and MOND​


Peter K.F. Kuhfittig

Modified Newtonian dynamics (MOND) is a hypothesized modification of Newton's law of universal gravitation to account for the flat rotation curves in the outer regions of galaxies, thereby eliminating the need for dark matter. Although a highly successful model, it is not a self-contained physical theory since it is based entirely on observations. It is proposed in this paper that noncommutative geometry, an offshoot of string theory, can account for the flat rotation curves and thereby provide an explanation for MOND. This paper extends an earlier heuristic argument by the author.


Comments:5 pages, no figures
Subjects: General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology (gr-qc)
Cite as:arXiv:2207.10459 [gr-qc]
(or arXiv:2207.10459v1 [gr-qc] for this version)
https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2207.10459


[Submitted on 31 May 2022]

MOND and asymptotic safe gravity​


Bijan Bagchi, Sauvik Sen

The modified Newtonian dynamics (MOND) paradigm is discussed in the context of asymptotic safe gravity. We estimate quantum correction to the logarithmic potential which is well known to account for the constancy of the circular velocity v of the spiral galaxies. We determine plausible bounds on v.


Comments:7 pages
Subjects: General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology (gr-qc); High Energy Physics - Theory (hep-th)
Cite as:arXiv:2205.15724 [gr-qc]
 
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The first looks ad-hoc to me with its smeared out particles. The second is a nice detail about MOND, giving a quantum correction to the MOND potential, which suggests interesting features for systems with tiny radius (in the quantum regime) - but not a revolutionary change BTW.
 
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Maarten Havinga said:
The first looks ad-hoc to me with its smeared out particles. The second is a nice detail about MOND, giving a quantum correction to the MOND potential, which suggests interesting features for systems with tiny radius (in the quantum regime) - but not a revolutionary change BTW.
so does asymptotic safe gravity give rise to MOND
 
I dunno
 
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