Number of intelligent civilizations over the history of the galaxy

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the total number of intelligent civilizations throughout the history of the galaxy using the Drake Equation. The user proposes that if the current number of civilizations is 10^-4 and each civilization lasts 1000 years, then the total number of civilizations over the galaxy's lifetime (10^10 years) would be 1000. However, participants highlight the uncertainty in estimating civilization lifetimes, suggesting that 1000 years may be overly optimistic given human history and the challenges of interstellar communication. The consensus leans towards skepticism about the current prevalence of radio-capable civilizations.

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If I suppose number of civilizations at the present time (ignoring light travel time) is 10-4. (drake equation) Where the civilizations lifetime is 1000 years.
Then over the history of the galaxy,
Number of civilizations over the galactic history=N* Galactic lifeitme (1010)/ Lifetime of civilization (1000yrs)
Then total number of civilization in the history of the galaxy = 1000

Is the above calculation correct?
Please help. Urgent.
 
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madman143 said:
If I suppose number of civilizations at the present time (ignoring light travel time) is 10-4. (drake equation) Where the civilizations lifetime is 1000 years.
Then over the history of the galaxy,
Number of civilizations over the galactic history=N* Galactic lifeitme (1010)/ Lifetime of civilization (1000yrs)
Then total number of civilization in the history of the galaxy = 1000

Is the above calculation correct?
Please help. Urgent.

You tell me. No one really knows what values to enter for most of the Drake equation, let alone lifetimes.
 
The lifetime of an intelligent civilization is possibly the most diificult part of the drake equation to handicap. I assume it to be the time after the invention of radio communication, given the near impossibility of detection prior to that time. In that case, 1000 years may be wildly optimistic. We humans have not even made it 200 years. Personally, I think the odds are very good we may be the only radio capable civilization currently inhabiting our galaxy. On the other hand, I think there is a high probability of far more advanced civilizations in the galaxy. I am less optimistic about the prospects any alien intelligence has solved the problems of interstellar travel.
 

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