Number of possible scenarios of tic-tac-toe

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The discussion centers on calculating the number of possible scenarios in a game of tic-tac-toe. It is established that while the naive approach suggests 9! (factorial of 9) possible board configurations, this is incorrect due to incomplete games. The conversation highlights that the minimum number of turns required to win is five, and various configurations must be considered to account for incomplete games. The formula discussed for calculating these scenarios involves the product notation \prod_{k=0}^{n-4} 6-k, which is then multiplied by 8 to account for different game developments.

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I was debating with a friend whether it is easy to know the number of possible scenarios of tic-tac-toe possible. what do we think?
 
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If you mean the number of possible final board positions in a game of tic tac toe then yes it is easy to find. Exercise: try doing it not talking about it. Start with the 2x2 case if it is easier.
 
the easy answer would be 9!. however this cannot be true since it is possible for a game to fiish without having the board filled, no?
 
matt grime said:
If you mean the number of possible final board positions in a game of tic tac toe then yes it is easy to find. Exercise: try doing it not talking about it. Start with the 2x2 case if it is easier.
no, i think we meant the entire game notation. as in, total game developments. how many possible ways are there for a tic tac toe game to develop?
 
Well if you are the first player to play, there is a minimum of 5 turns before you win. Considering a possibility, there is always 6 cases where there is no tic tac tow. If n is number of turn, that means that n-3 tokens can be anywhere on those 6 cases. This result is given by
\prod_{k=0}^{n-4} 6-k
Since there is 8 possibilies, you multiply this result by 8. There for turns above 5, you have to substract the possibilies that implies there is another tictactoe. To find this you'll have to find how many possibility there is with 6 cases. And you will also have to find how many possibilities there is with 3 cases to find that, then you can calculate the final result.
 
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