Observed Redshift Variation Over TIme

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the observed variation in redshift over time, particularly in relation to the orbiting object G2 around a black hole, and seeks to explore similar phenomena in binary stars and other celestial objects. The scope includes observational astronomy and the implications of redshift changes in various contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the observation of G2's orbit around the black hole, noting a visual change in direction and a corresponding redshift to blue shift change.
  • Another participant provides a link to a catalog of optical binaries but expresses a need for specific documentation regarding observed redshift variation in binary stars over time.
  • A third participant mentions that measuring redshift changes is directionally dependent, highlighting the importance of the orbital plane's orientation relative to the observer's line of sight.
  • A later reply reiterates the directionality of redshift changes and expresses a desire to find studies on orbital pairs that document such variations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the directionality of redshift changes and the observational challenges involved. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the availability of specific documentation on redshift variations in binary stars and other objects.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific examples of binary stars with documented redshift variations and the dependence on the observer's line of sight for measuring changes in redshift.

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Recently we got to watch G2 as its orbit took it around the black hole at the center of the galaxy. This showed a visual change in direction along with a corresponding redshift to blue shift change on a relatively short timeline. It was really a great event.

Binary stars exhibit the same behavior but where are specific instances of this documented ? I have been unable to locate a catalog binary stars and their orbital periods. I'm sure it exists but all my googles dredge up are generic explanations devoid of any specific named pairs.

Are there any other objects besides G1/2 at galactic center, and binary stars, that we have been able to a change in direction and change in redshift ?
 
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Getting a measurable change in redshift of an orbiting body is directionally dependent - the perpendicularity of the orbital plane to our line of sight being a relevant factor. We can, however, measure the direction of rotation and rotatational velocity of fairly distant galaxies rather easily using doppler shifts. See http://astro.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/rotcurve.html for discussion.
 
Yes you are correct it is directionally dependent and that is what I was hoping to find. With G2 that's what we witnessed a directional change and a corresponding redshift change. I'm sure studies of orbital pairs have been done I just can't find them.

I'll keep looking and thanks for the link.
 

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