Operator in non-orthogonal basis

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The discussion revolves around the construction of operators in non-orthogonal bases within the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of using non-orthogonal bases for operators and the effects on eigenvalues and operator elements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of constructing an operator in a non-orthogonal basis and seeks guidance on how to do so.
  • Another participant suggests forming operators using the outer product notation |b>
  • Several participants question the consequences of choosing a non-orthogonal basis, indicating a need for clarification on its implications.
  • A participant asserts that knowing the effect of the operator on all basis states allows for the construction of the operator, referencing the expression .
  • It is noted that in a non-orthogonal basis, the effect of applying the operator to a basis state is more complex compared to an orthogonal basis.
  • One participant expresses interest in how to construct a basis dependent on a non-orthogonal basis and inquires about the implications for eigenvalues and operator elements.
  • There is a question regarding whether this situation is present in some quantum systems.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the construction of operators in non-orthogonal bases and the implications of such choices. There is no consensus on the best approach or the consequences of using non-orthogonal bases.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effects of non-orthogonality on operator behavior, eigenvalues, and the complexity of operator application in non-orthogonal bases. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Hi, is possible make up a operator in a non-orthogonal basis, if is possible how I can contruct the operator.

thanks
 
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why not form your operators as |b><a|
 
which are the consequence of choice a basis non-orthogonal?
 
j_dirac said:
which are the consequence of choice a basis non-orthogonal?

Why do you want to form an operator in a non-orthogonal basis in the first place?
 
j_dirac said:
Hi, is possible make up a operator in a non-orthogonal basis, if is possible how I can contruct the operator.

thanks

Of course.

All you need to know is the effect of the operator on all the basis states. So if you know all the values of [itex]<a_i|A|a_j>[/itex] then you know everything about the operator.

Alternatively, as quetzalcoatl9 pointed out, an arbitrary operators can be written as

[itex]A = \sum c_{ij} |a_i><a_j|[/itex]

One consequence of having a non orthonogonal basis is that you can't read off directly from the above expression what is the effect of applying the operator to a basis state gives.

If the basis is orthogonal, then applying A to, say, [itex]|a_3>[/itex] will simply give [itex]c_{13} |a_1> + c_{23} |a_2> + \ldots[/itex] (I am assuming that the labels of the states are discrete and start at 1). If the basis is not orthogonal, the expression is of course more complicated.
 
I can construct a basis depent of basis non-orthogonal, how might make up? and what happen with the eigenvalues and elements of the operator.

someone know if the situation present in some quantum system.
 

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