Optics - Finding Angular Size and Image Location

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The discussion focuses on determining the image location and angular size for a pencil in front of different types of mirrors. For a flat mirror, the image is located 60 cm from the observer, while for a convex mirror, the image is at 40 cm. Participants emphasize the importance of angular size, noting that it decreases with increased distance from the image. Additionally, the conversation highlights the need for clarity in defining the origin for image positioning. The effects of mirror curvature on image characteristics are also explored, particularly for convex mirrors.
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1. 1. Homework Statement
(SEE PIC given BELOW) A pencil is standing upright in front of a mirror at a distance of 20 cm from the surface. A variety of mirrors can be placed where the dotted box is located. The mirror may be either concave, flat or convex, based upon the following questions. An observer's eye is directly in front of the pencil and the mirror and the observer can see both the object (pencil) and its image. The observer's eye is 20 cm from the pencil, and at a level equal to the midpoint of the pencil. You may also assume that for a curved mirror its vertex (the center of the mirror's surface) is located right at the tip of the leftmost arrow in the diagram.

PIC: http://tinypic.com/r/14y06di/6 or see attached3) Where is the image located if the mirror is flat?
4) Where could the image be located if the mirror is convex?
multiple choice answers for Q3 and Q4
a) 20 cm in front of the observer
b) 40
c) 60
d) 80
e) 100
f) N/A

Homework Equations




(1/S1) + (1/S2) = (1/F)
Angular Size (in radians) = diameter/Distance
More?

The Attempt at a Solution

3 ) C, 60 cm, 20 to the pencil, 20 to mirror, 20 past mirror
4 ) B, 40 cm. Not sure?
 

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1. you are making a small-angle approximation arn't you?
2. the angular size does depend on the distance to the image though - the farther away the image the smaller the angular size.
3. since no position axis are provided, you have to specify your origin explicitly ... some conventions would have the image at -20cm.
4. what sort of image would you expect from a convex mirror? Can you describe where to expect that sort of image? How does the radius of curvature of the mirror affect this?
 
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