Pair Production and Momentum Transfer in Photon Interactions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the phenomenon of pair production, specifically how a photon can create an electron and a positron, and the role of a nucleus in this process. Participants explore the mechanics of momentum transfer during photon interactions and the conditions necessary for pair production to occur.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that pair production cannot occur without a nucleus to absorb excess momentum from the photon.
  • One participant suggests that momentum is transferred during a collision process, where the nucleus gains momentum at the expense of the photon.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the momentum of the photon is small compared to the mass of the nucleus, implying that the nucleus experiences negligible movement during the interaction.
  • A participant describes the process using Feynman diagrams, indicating that multiple interactions involving photon absorption and emission by the nucleus are involved in pair production.
  • There is a question about whether pair production can occur in empty space and the conditions under which the created particles might annihilate each other.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the specifics of how momentum is transferred and whether pair production can occur in empty space. There is no consensus on the details of the process or the conditions required for the particles to avoid annihilation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the conditions under which pair production occurs and the dependence on the definitions of momentum transfer and particle interactions. The discussion does not resolve the specifics of these interactions.

jk4
I read about "pair production" how a photon can create and electron and a positron. I read the calculations and I understand how this is impossible unless something else (a nucleus) is present to take away some of the initial photon momentum, however, the book doesn't say exactly 'how' the nucleus takes away the photons momentum. Any help?
 
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My best guess would be that momentum is transferred during a collision process- the nucleus gains momentum at the photon's expense. But that is only a semi-educated guess. Anyone?
 
jk4 said:
I read about "pair production" how a photon can create and electron and a positron. I read the calculations and I understand how this is impossible unless something else (a nucleus) is present to take away some of the initial photon momentum, however, the book doesn't say exactly 'how' the nucleus takes away the photons momentum. Any help?

I think that's right muppet. But the photon momentum is so small compared to the nucleus mass that the nucleus barely moves in the collision - like an asteriod hitting the earth.
 
Several things happen, and are described by individual Feynman diagrams, four in fact to lowest order in the electron's charge, e.. They all involve photon absorption and emission by the nucleus. You can find these diagrams in many texts. There are two, which represent absorption of the photon by the nucleus followed by emission of another photon that turns into a pair. Also, there is the same diagram with absorption second and emission first.

Then, the electron-nucleus and positron nucleus interactions involve single photon exchange between the leptons and the nucleus. The photon(s) interacting with the nucleus transmit the momentum and energy needed to make the production process go.- true for all diagrams.

And yes, with a photon energy considerably less than the nuclear mass, the nuclear recoil is negligible.

Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
ok, so then this process can occur in empty space? However, they quickly annihilate one another again? But in order to prevent them from annihilating each other you must have a nearby nucleus?

Is that all correct?
 

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