Parameterization for a Straight Line

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the parameterization of a straight line connecting two points, $z_1$ and $z_2$. Participants explore the implications of choosing different endpoints, the direction of the line, and the uniqueness of parameterizations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the choice of $z_1$ and $z_2$ matters because the direction of the curve affects the parameterization, leading to different representations.
  • Others clarify that the parameterization can be expressed in multiple forms, such as $\gamma(t) = (1-t)z_1 + z_2 t$ or $z_1 + t(z_2 - z_1)$, and that both forms are valid.
  • It is noted that the starting point corresponds to $t=0$ and the endpoint to $t=1$ in the parameterization, which can lead to confusion if the direction is not considered.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the parameter range, particularly when it is negative, and suggest that this may relate to the direction of the line.
  • One participant mentions that parameterizations need not be unique, indicating that different parameterizations can represent the same curve.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the direction of the parameterization is crucial and must accurately reflect the curve's orientation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the choice of endpoints affects the parameterization and that direction is important. However, there is no consensus on the implications of negative parameter ranges or the best way to assign $z_1$ and $z_2$ in specific cases.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential for confusion regarding the uniqueness of parameterizations and the impact of direction on the representation of the curve. There are also unresolved questions about the specific parameter range and its significance.

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Hi,

Just wanted to clarify with parameterising.

So for a straight line, connected from the point $z_1$ to $z_2$
We can use the formula

$ (1-t)z_{1} + z_{2}t$ or
$ z_{1} + t[(z_1 - z_2)]$

I am just wondering, does it matter which end points you allocate to be z1 and z2?

if so, in which manner do we go about assigning the points?

So if you could look at the attached image, for the line $y_3$
could someone please give me what the correct $z_1$ and $z_2$ would be? I've tried both, but can't seem to get the answer.
I did also notice that the direction of the line is going from right to left, so what does that change for us, is it a negative direction?

I am confused why the parameter is ranging from -2<t< 0, although i suspect it may be because the arrow is pointing from right to left.

Any help is very much appreciated.
 

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Re: parameterization question

nacho said:
Hi,

Just wanted to clarify with parameterising.

So for a straight line, connected from the point $z_1$ to $z_2$
We can use the formula

$ (1-t)z_{1} + z_{2}t$ or
$ z_{1} + t[(z_1 - z_2)]$

I am just wondering, does it matter which end points you allocate to be z1 and z2?

Yes, because the curve has a direction it matters which direction you choose actually the two curves will differ by a negative sign.

If you let the following $$\gamma(t) = (1-t)z_1 +z_2 t = z_1+t(z_2-z_1)$$

if you plug $$t=0$$ in the first equation you get $$\gamma(0) = z_1$$ so the starting point is $$z_1$$ and if you plug $$t=1$$ you get $$\gamma(1) = z_2$$ so the final point is $z_2$ hence the parmatrization of the curve is

$$\int_{\gamma}f(z)\, dz = \int^1_0 f(\gamma(t)) \gamma'(t)\, dt$$
if so, in which manner do we go about assigning the points?

For straight lines it is quite easy $z_1$ is the starting point and $z_2$ is the final point, most of the time it is by trial and error so test it first .

So if you could look at the attached image, for the line $y_3$
could someone please give me what the correct $z_1$ and $z_2$ would be? I've tried both, but can't seem to get the answer.
I did also notice that the direction of the line is going from right to left, so what does that change for us, is it a negative direction?

I am confused why the parameter is ranging from -2<t< 0, although i suspect it may be because the arrow is pointing from right to left.

Any help is very much appreciated.

I understand your confusion because parametrization is not unique so you can get many parametrizations for the same curve but they are actually the same.

In $$\gamma_3$$ what is the starting point $z_1$ and what is $z_2$ ? and just plug them in the formula above.

To check that the formula the book used is correct note that $z_3(t) = -t(1+i)$ so we must have $z_3(-2) = 2+2i $ and $z_3(0) =0$ which is indeed correct. since the paratmerization represents the right coordinates on the curve. But that is not enough we have to prove that $$z_3$$ is an equation of a line and since a line between two point is unique the parametrization is correct.

Note that another valid parametrizations is $z_3(t) = t(1+i)$ where $2 \leq t \leq 0$ since the starting point and the end points coincide with the curve it is correct.
 
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Re: parameterization question

Thanks a tonne zaid, that clears up a lot.

i also just remembered that i forgot paramterizations need not be unique
 
Re: parameterization question

nacho said:
Thanks a tonne zaid, that clears up a lot.

i also just remembered that i forgot paramterizations need not be unique

Note that direction IS important. Regardless of what parametrization you use it should EXACTLY represents the same curve with the correct direction.
 

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