Parity and Time Reversal symmetries.

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The discussion centers on the symmetries of parity and time reversal in physics, particularly how these symmetries affect physical quantities such as magnetic fields, momentum, and angular momentum. Participants explore theoretical implications and questions related to Hamiltonians and eigenvalues in the context of these symmetries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that under time reversal, an external magnetic field would change direction, while under parity, it would remain unchanged.
  • Another participant questions the conservation of eigenvalues when the Hamiltonian is invariant under time reversal, proposing that a non-conserved eigenvalue might imply a negative probability amplitude.
  • A participant provides examples of how momentum and angular momentum transform under parity and time reversal, indicating that momentum changes sign while angular momentum does not under parity.
  • There is a repeated inquiry about the transformation of magnetic fields under parity and time reversal, with confirmation that magnetic fields should change sign under time reversal.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the concept of conservation of eigenvalues in the context of time reversal invariance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the transformation properties of magnetic fields under time reversal and parity, but there is uncertainty and lack of consensus regarding the implications for eigenvalues and their conservation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the implications of time reversal invariance on eigenvalues, and some statements depend on specific definitions that are not fully articulated in the discussion.

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I have a question, in Time Reversal operator, does an external magnetic field would get a minus sign, I guess that yes cause it changes direction, i.e if it's directed orthogonal to the surface then after time reversal I think it will direct anti-orthogonal to the surface, in Parity I don't think it would change direction.

Is this correct?
 
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I have another similar question, on the same topic.
If the hamiltonian is invariant under time reversal, [H,T]=0 then an eigenvalue of T isn't conserved.
T is the time reversal operator.

Now I am not sure, but an eigenvalue being not conserved perhaps means that it's absolute value squared doesn't give a positive number (which is crucial because the eigenvalues amplitudes squared represent a probability), in this case the eigenvalue, a equals: |a|^2=-1 which is impossbile.
 
take the example of the momentum 3-vector "P" as a generic real-vector and of the angular momentum "L" (L=R^P) as a pseudo-vector.
You can directly see how they transform under P (parity) and T (time reversal):

P:

  • R ---> -R (R is the spatial coordinate system)
    P ---> -P
    L ----> L (unchanged)
T:

  • R ---> R
    P ---> -P
    L ----> -L

...and I don't understand your second question.
 
Yes, I know that already, but does this mean that under parity B->B, and under time reversal B->-B?

For my second question, what don't you understand?
 
Yes, I know that already, but does this mean that under parity B->B, and under time reversal B->-B?
ah.. sorry for my digression.
Yes, the answer is yes. You can also see that in maxwell equations, for example:
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as you can see, to preserve the invariance of the equation B should transform to -B (because both terms on the right change sign) under T.

(you can check out the Jackson too..)
For my second question, what don't you understand?
I'm not even sure it is a question...
 
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The question in my second post in this thread is proving:
"If the hamiltonian is invariant under time reversal, [H,T]=0 then an eigenvalue of T isn't conserved."

I am not sure what is conservation of eigenvalue.
 

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