MHB Partial Fraction Question: Simplifying ln(2) and ln(3) to ln(8/3) in 8/5 form

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression 24/5 ln(2) - 8/5 ln(3) into the form 8/5 ln(8/3). The key to this simplification lies in applying logarithmic properties, specifically that b·ln(a) can be rewritten as ln(a^b). By expressing 24/5 ln(2) as (8/5)(3 ln(2)) and recognizing that 2^3 equals 8, the expression can be transformed into 8/5 (ln(8) - ln(3)). This leads to the desired result of 8/5 ln(8/3), confirming the equivalence of the two forms. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding logarithmic identities for simplification.
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Without being too concerned how we got there. The answer to a partial fraction question a friend and I are doing is

24/5 ln(2) - 8/5ln(3)

The system does not accept this answer however, it wants the simplified form

8/5 ln (8/3)

We're not sure how to get that form.

More specifically

8/5 (ln(8)-ln(3))

It's the ln(8) we're not sure about.
 
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If you and your friend's answer was:

$$\frac{24}{5}\ln(2)-\frac{8}{5}\ln(3)$$

then it would be equivalent to the answer expected by "the system."

Recall the logarithmic property:

$$b\cdot\log_{a}(c)=\log_{a}\left(c^b\right)$$
 
If you had $(24/5)\ln{2} - (8/5)\ln{3}$ instead of $(26/5)\ln{2} - (8/5)\ln{3}$ you would get the desired $(8/5)\ln{8/3}$. To see this, use the formula $b \ln{a} = \ln{a^b}$ to write

$(24/5)\ln{2} = (8/5)(3\ln{2}) = (8/5) \ln{2^3} = (8/5)\ln{8}$.

Then $(24/5)\ln{2} - (8/5)\ln{3} = (8/5)(\ln{8} - \ln{3})$, which, as you mentioned, equals $(8/5)\ln{8/3}$.
 
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Sooo

24/5 ln(2) - 8/5 ln(3)

(24/5)/(8/5)=3

8/5 (3ln(2) - ln(3))

2^3 = 8

ln(8)-ln(3)

8/5 ln(8/3)

Ace.
 
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There are probably loads of proofs of this online, but I do not want to cheat. Here is my attempt: Convexity says that $$f(\lambda a + (1-\lambda)b) \leq \lambda f(a) + (1-\lambda) f(b)$$ $$f(b + \lambda(a-b)) \leq f(b) + \lambda (f(a) - f(b))$$ We know from the intermediate value theorem that there exists a ##c \in (b,a)## such that $$\frac{f(a) - f(b)}{a-b} = f'(c).$$ Hence $$f(b + \lambda(a-b)) \leq f(b) + \lambda (a - b) f'(c))$$ $$\frac{f(b + \lambda(a-b)) - f(b)}{\lambda(a-b)}...

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