Particle Accelerator concentration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate concentrations within electrical engineering that are relevant for working on particle accelerators. Participants explore various fields of study and their applicability to the design and operation of particle accelerators, including both theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that design work on particle accelerators is primarily handled by physicists, with electrical engineers providing support.
  • One participant proposes that concentrations such as superconductors, RF engineering, and high vacuum engineering are relevant for electrical engineers in this field.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of safety considerations in the context of particle accelerators, although they are uncertain if specific courses exist for this area.
  • There is a suggestion to explore job qualifications at institutions like CERN to understand the educational background required for careers in accelerator technology.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of electromagnetic fields, RF fields, RF system design, waveguides, RF cavity designs, and charged-beam physics as important areas of study.
  • One participant recommends looking into curricula from Particle Accelerator Schools for a clearer understanding of the subject areas involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relevant concentrations for electrical engineering in relation to particle accelerators, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus on a single path or concentration.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions highlight the potential limitations in understanding the full scope of required knowledge and skills, as well as the dependence on specific definitions of roles within the field.

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Summary:: What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?

What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?
 
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Huh? What exactly are you asking?
 
random123 said:
Summary:: What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?

What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?
Welcome to PF.

What do you mean by "works on"? If you mean design, that would normally be handled by Physicists, but could be supported by EEs. Are you starting university and wondering what kind of electives you should take to get into that field of specialty?
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to PF.

What do you mean by "works on"? If you mean design, that would normally be handled by Physicists, but could be supported by EEs. Are you starting university and wondering what kind of electives you should take to get into that field of specialty?
I mean what masters concentration of electrical engineering would someone get to pursue work on particle accelerators?
 
berkeman said:
If you mean design, that would normally be handled by Physicists
What @berkeman said.
 
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random123 said:
Summary:: What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?

What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?
Superconductors. RF engineering. High vacuum engineering. Did I forget anything? :wink:
 
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random123 said:
What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?
BTW, I did a Google search for EE jobs at CERN and got lots of hits. Maybe try similar searches to see what kind of qualifications employers are asking for in the field of accelerators.
 
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berkeman said:
Superconductors. RF engineering. High vacuum engineering. Did I forget anything? :wink:
Oh how about magnetics and super-cold temperatures, and slamming alpha particles at near-light speeds into a sheet of gold ##-## I'm pretty sure that nope, you didn't forget anything, you just didn't mention everything, and neither did I . . .
 
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random123 said:
Summary:: What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?

What concentration for electrical engineering works on particle accelerators?

To answer your original question, even though it is a month too late, is the area of electromagnetic fields. RF fields and RF system design are part of this huge area. Many physicists and electrical engineers in this field work on waveguides, RF cavity designs, charged-beam physics, etc.

I suggest you look up, for example, the curriculum offered during one of the Particle Accelerator Schools. This will give you as clear of a description as any of the subject areas involved in such a field. If you choose to go into this field, there's a good chance that you will be taking one of these PAS courses.

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