Particle motion ode (1st order nonlinear nonhomog)

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The discussion centers on solving the first-order nonlinear ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by \(\frac{dv}{dt}-A(B-v)^{1.6}=G\), where A, B, and G are constants. The participant discovers that setting B to 0 simplifies the equation, but it leads to a scenario where the velocity v must be less than or equal to zero, which is not physically realistic. The consensus is that the solution is complex and not amenable to formal integration, suggesting that numerical integration methods are the most practical approach for solving this ODE.

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hi all,

I've been trying to work this problem out,

\frac{dv}{dt}-A(B-v)^{1.6}=G

A, B and G are constants

and Matlab can't give me a solution either. I'm wondering if there is even a solution?
 
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Hi,

Just realized I can make an assumption for B = 0. Does this make it solvable?
 
Hi !
The ODe is of the "separables variables" kind (see in attachment) :
 

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wow! thanks
 
Sorry, there was a typo at the end of the attached page :
 

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Since v represents velocity, can I then integrate the v-equation? Are inv. Beta functions integratable?

Or would it be simpler to determine the x-position by setting up the original equation as a second order derivative as:

d2xdt2−A(B−v)^1.6=G

and as B = 0 then

\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+A(\frac{dx}{dt})^{1.6}=G
with initial conditions
dx/dt(0) = 0

i.e. particle initially at rest

Sorry to ask again, but could you show me this solution? I really struggle with maths.
 
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Hi !

If B=0 your basic equation dv/dt−A(−v)^1.6=G implies v<0 or v=0. If not, (-v)^1.6 would not be real and the solution v(t) would not be real, which is not correct on a physical point of view. So v<0 or v=0.
In the general solution given in my preceeding post, let c=0 and B=0 in the formula. Then Y(0)=0 ; Inverse Beta (0) = 0 which leads to v=0.
The expected solution with condition v=0 at t=0 is obtained with c=0 in the formula.

The function v(t) is not a simple Inverse Beta function, but a combination of several functions with the Inverse Beta among them. It's far too complicated for formal integration. I think that the only practical way is numerical integration. If it is that what you want, the simplest way is probably to use a numerical process for solving directly the differential equation.
 
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