Particle on a sphere problem in quantum mechanics and its solution

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The discussion revolves around the particle on a sphere problem in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the differential equation governing the angular solutions and the presence of the Condon-Shortley phase factor in the solutions. Participants explore the implications of this factor and its relation to symmetry and calculations in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a differential equation related to a particle on a sphere and questions the inclusion of a phase factor in the solution.
  • Another participant asks about the book reference and introduces the concept of parity transformations.
  • A participant suggests looking up the "Condon-Shortley phase factor" and notes that it simplifies calculations.
  • There is a discussion about defining solutions for negative m and whether this is also for simplification.
  • One participant connects the phase factor to symmetry (parity) considerations.
  • Questions arise regarding the application of the raising operator L+ to the angular solutions and whether the phase factor is necessary for satisfying the operator's action.
  • A later reply indicates a lack of familiarity with ladder operators for angular momentum, suggesting further exploration is needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the necessity and implications of the Condon-Shortley phase factor, with some suggesting it relates to symmetry and others focusing on its computational utility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact role of the phase factor in the context of ladder operators.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical forms and transformations without fully resolving the implications of these transformations or the assumptions underlying their use.

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To solve a particle on a sphere problem in quantum mechanics we get the below equation :##\left[\frac{1}{\sin \theta} \frac{d}{d \theta}\left(\sin \theta \frac{d}{d \theta}\right)-\frac{m^{2}}{\sin ^{2} \theta}\right] \Theta(\theta)=-A \Theta(\theta) ##

To solve this differential equation, we start with a change of independent variable ##z=\cos \theta##, where ##z## is the rectangular coordinate for the particle, assuming a unit sphere. We also introduce a new function
##
P(z)=\Theta(\theta) .
##
Using this substitution we've this equation
##\left(\left(1-z^{2}\right) \frac{d^{2}}{d z^{2}}-2 z \frac{d}{d z}+A-\frac{m^{2}}{\left(1-z^{2}\right)}\right) P(z)=0 ## whose solutions are the associated Legendre polynomials :

##
P_{\ell}^{-m}(z)=P_{\ell}^{m}(z)
##

To get back the angular solution I should use ##
P(z)=\Theta(\theta)## and also normalise it, giving me

##\Theta_{\ell}^{m}(\theta)= \frac{(2 \ell+1)}{2} \frac{(\ell-m) !}{(\ell+m) !} P_{\ell}^{m}(\cos \theta)##

But my book writes the solution with an additional ##(-1)^{m}## term as
##\Theta_{\ell}^{m}(\theta)= (-1)^{m}\frac{(2 \ell+1)}{2} \frac{(\ell-m) !}{(\ell+m) !} P_{\ell}^{m}(\cos \theta) ##

Why is that so?
 
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What is your book? Do you know about parity transformations?
 
dextercioby said:
What is your book? Do you know about parity transformations?
David McIntyre, Quantum mechanics.

I know little bit about parity operator.
 
Look up on the internet the "Condon-Shortley phase factor".
 
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dextercioby said:
Look up on the internet the "Condon-Shortley phase factor".
So the factor is there to simplify calculations.

Similarly defining for negative ##m##:
##
\Theta_{\ell}^{-m}(\theta)=(-1)^{m} \Theta_{\ell}^{m}(\theta), \quad m \geq 0 .
## is also to simplify calculations?
 
I think that is symmetry (parity)-related.
 
Kashmir said:
##\Theta_{\ell}^{m}(\theta)= (-1)^{m}\frac{(2 \ell+1)}{2} \frac{(\ell-m) !}{(\ell+m) !} P_{\ell}^{m}(\cos \theta) ##

Why is that so?
What happens if you apply the raising operator ##L_+## to ##\Theta_{1}^{0}(\theta)##? Do you need a factor of ##(-1)^m## to satisfy ##L_+\Theta_{1}^{0} = \Theta_{1}^{1}##?
 
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PeroK said:
What happens if you apply the raising operator ##L_+## to ##\Theta_{1}^{0}(\theta)##? Do you need a factor of ##(-1)^m## to satisfy ##L_+\Theta_{1}^{0} = \Theta_{1}^{1}##?
Hello sir.
I've not done the ladder operators for angular momentum. I'll do them and come back.
Thank you :)
 

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