Partitioning a Group Into Disjoint Subgroups

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The discussion centers on the possibility of partitioning a group into disjoint subgroups, where the only element shared between any two subgroups is the identity element. Participants explore this concept within the context of elementary group theory, considering both cyclic and non-cyclic groups, and examining specific examples such as the Klein Four Group and the Quaternions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that partitioning a cyclic group into disjoint subgroups is impossible, as any subgroup must contain the powers of its generator.
  • Another participant provides a counterexample using the Klein Four Group, demonstrating that it can be partitioned into three nontrivial subgroups that intersect only at the identity.
  • There is speculation about whether all non-cyclic groups can be partitioned in a similar manner, with one participant expressing uncertainty about this generalization.
  • A participant introduces the concept of cycle graphs and suggests using them to test the conjecture regarding partitioning non-cyclic groups.
  • One participant claims that any non-cyclic group can be partitioned based on the structure of its cycle graph, but later questions this assertion by considering the Quaternions, which do not allow such a partition.
  • Another participant mentions that certain groups, like vector spaces over fields, can indeed be partitioned into disjoint subgroups, suggesting a broader applicability of the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the generalizability of partitioning groups into disjoint subgroups. While some examples support the idea, others, like the Quaternions, present counterexamples, leaving the discussion unresolved regarding a definitive rule for all groups.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their arguments, such as the dependence on specific group structures and the need for further exploration of counterexamples like the Quaternions.

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Hey everyone, I've got a question in elementary group theory.

Suppose we have a group G, and we want to completely partition it into multiple subgroups, such that the only element each subgroup shares with any other is the identity element. Is this ever possible?

I think that such a partitioning is impossible for any cyclic group. If g is a generator for a cyclic group G, and H is a subgroup of G with a smaller order than G, then g \notin H, because closure of H would require all of g's powers (and hence all of G) to be in H. Therefore we cannot include the generators of G in any of the partitions, so partitioning is impossible.

What about non-cyclic groups, like the Klein Four Group?

Thanks!
 
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You really answered your own question already. You suggested the Klein four group so just check it. It is trivial to verify that the nontrivial subgroups of \mathbb{Z_2}\times\mathbb{Z_2}=\{ (0,0),(1,0),(0,1),(1,1) \} are H_1=\{(0,0),(1,0) \}, H_2=\{(0,0),(0,1) \} and H_3=\{(0,0),(1,1) \}. Further these subgroups intersect trivially and every element of the Klein four group is in one of them so they satisfy your conditions.
 
Ah, of course! You're quite right. I wonder if all non-cyclic groups can be partitioned as such? Again, thanks for reminding me of what should have been obvious.
 
metapuff said:
Ah, of course! You're quite right. I wonder if all non-cyclic groups can be partitioned as such? Again, thanks for reminding me of what should have been obvious.

Here's a hint. Let ##G## be a group and let ##H## be one of the partitioning sets. If ##g\in H##, then ##\langle g \rangle\subseteq := \{g^m~\vert~m\in \mathbb{Z}\} \subseteq H##. Thus the partitioning sets consists out of such "cycles". Now, you can visually represent such cycles by a cycle graph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_graph_(algebra )

Can you use the cycle graphs on the above wiki page and on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_small_groups to test your conjecture?
 
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Ah, I hadn't seen cycle graphs before. It looks like we can partition ANY non-cyclic group into disjoint subgroups! Any group who's cycle graph has more than one closed loop can be partitioned as such, and any non-cyclic group has to have more than one closed loop in its cycle graph.

Although, hold on. Maybe I'm being too hasty. Just looking at the cycle graph for the Quaternions, we can see that all subgroups of the Quaternions need to have -1 in them, so we can't partition the Quaternions, even though they aren't cyclic. I'll need to think about this a bit more. In any case, thanks guys!
 
metapuff said:
Ah, I hadn't seen cycle graphs before. It looks like we can partition ANY non-cyclic group into disjoint subgroups! Any group who's cycle graph has more than one closed loop can be partitioned as such, and any non-cyclic group has to have more than one closed loop in its cycle graph.

Although, hold on. Maybe I'm being too hasty. Just looking at the cycle graph for the Quaternions, we can see that all subgroups of the Quaternions need to have -1 in them, so we can't partition the Quaternions, even though they aren't cyclic. I'll need to think about this a bit more. In any case, thanks guys!

Indeed, the quaternions form a counterexample, unless you allow a partition with one subgroup.
 
For some groups it is possible. Example with Klein group can be easily generalized to vector spaces (of dimension > 1) over an arbitrary field, as groups under addition: they can be partitioned to one-dimensional subspaces parametrized by the projectivization of that vector space. Five years ago Ī even uploaded several nice pictures for finite fields. You can also generalize it to free modules over Euclidean domains: for instance, ℤ2 admits a partition, by the same principle, to infinite number of subgroups isomorphic to ℤ.
 

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