Perturbation Theory - expressing the perturbation

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The discussion revolves around perturbation theory in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the potential energy of a hydrogen atom. The original poster presents a mutual Coulomb potential energy expression and seeks to clarify the perturbation of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to define the perturbation by summing two potential energy functions and questions if this approach is correct. Some participants question the validity of the potential expression, particularly the conditions under which it is defined.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing feedback on the potential expression and suggesting corrections. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are exploring different interpretations of the perturbation setup.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted typo in the potential expression that has led to some confusion. Additionally, the original poster mentions a deviation from Coulomb's law at small distances, which is a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement
Specify the perturbation for the Coulomb model of hydrogen.
Relevant Equations
##V(x) =

\begin{cases}

-\frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} \text{if } 0<r \leq 0 \\

-\frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r} \text{if } r > 0

\end{cases} ##
Hi,

I just need someone to check if I am on the right track here

Below is a mutual Coulomb potential energy between the electron and proton in a hydrogen atom which is the perturbed system:

##V(x) =
\begin{cases}
- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} \text{for } 0<r \leq 0 \\
- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r} \text{for } r > 0
\end{cases} ##

Where e = mag of electron charge, B = a constant length, ##4\pi\epsilon_{0}## = permittivity of free space

Using this I need to specify the perturbation of the system.

Since V(x) is the perturbed system is the total perturbation the sum of both these functions across the length?

In which case I get:

##\delta\hat H = - \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} + (- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r})##

##\delta\hat H = - \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}(\frac{b}{r^{2}} + \frac{1}{r})##

I just want to check if this is the correct way to go about this?

Thanks in advance.
 
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I don't understand the potential you are looking at. Usually for the hydrogen atom you just use the simple Coulomb potential. What does the first line mean? ##0<r \leq 0## is self-contradictory, because ##r>0## already implies that ##r \neq 0##.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Sorry that's my typo it should be:

##0 \lt r \leq b##

and the second one should be

##r \gt b##

Also in the question it says to suppose there is a deviation from Coulombs law at very small distances (even though there is no evidence for it)
 
Zero1010 said:
Homework Statement:: Specify the perturbation for the Coulomb model of hydrogen.
Relevant Equations:: ##V(x) =

\begin{cases}

-\frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} \text{if } 0<r \leq 0 \\

-\frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r} \text{if } r > 0

\end{cases} ##

Hi,

I just need someone to check if I am on the right track here

Below is a mutual Coulomb potential energy between the electron and proton in a hydrogen atom which is the perturbed system:

##V(x) =
\begin{cases}
- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} \text{for } 0<r \leq 0 \\
- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r} \text{for } r > 0
\end{cases} ##

Where e = mag of electron charge, B = a constant length, ##4\pi\epsilon_{0}## = permittivity of free space

Using this I need to specify the perturbation of the system.

Since V(x) is the perturbed system is the total perturbation the sum of both these functions across the length?

In which case I get:

##\delta\hat H = - \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{b}{r^{2}} + (- \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{1}{r})##

##\delta\hat H = - \frac{e^{2}}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}(\frac{b}{r^{2}} + \frac{1}{r})##

I just want to check if this is the correct way to go about this?

Thanks in advance.
You should be subtracting the Coulomb potential in ##\delta\hat H##.
 
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