PF5 Problems & Errors: Report & Discuss

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This discussion focuses on reporting various errors and functional problems with PF5. Users have noted issues with the messaging system, including incorrect alert counts on the bell icon and problems with MathJax when editing posts containing LaTeX code. There are also concerns about the mobile view being limited to a single column, which affects usability on larger screens. Additionally, users reported missing features like the post count and the option to set titles and descriptions for media uploads. Overall, the thread serves as a platform for users to highlight these issues while the site undergoes improvements.
  • #301
Just restarted my computer also, with no effect.
 
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  • #302
fresh_42 said:
These are mine:
View attachment 247035
at least here.:oldconfused:
That's what I get as well, under Firefox on a Windows 7 workstation. Same as I've always seen since the new system was installed except that the last one, "skeptical", is new
 
  • #303
StatGuy2000 said:
Hi @Greg Bernhardt . I was trying to use the Search advanced feature to find threads where 2 (or more) PF members have contributed.

However, every time I enter 2 PFS member names, (under "Posted by:" with PFS Member X and Member Y) I only see cases where posts by Member X or Member Y, not Member X and Member Y. Is there a way to use the AND option in searches?
The software always searches posts. A post is from a single user.
BillTre said:
A link like the above would have expanded after saving the draft and then reopening it, such that the blue covered the whole paragraph it was in as well as neighboring paragraphs.
Messed up BB code somewhere I guess, but hard to diagnose based on that description.

@Greg Bernhardt: I cleared my cache (sort of) and it went from the light bulb to the red downvote icon. It was good before! But after reloading it was good again, just a one-time glitch.
Firefox/windows.
 
  • #304
mfb said:
Messed up BB code somewhere I guess, but hard to diagnose based on that description.
I don't use the BB code, but I suppose I could have hit a button or some keys without noticing.
I will see if it happens again in the future.
 
  • #305
I have the anger icon on a new installed Firefox (W10).
 
  • #307
Here is how Opera displays the png (Chrome has it correct).
If I download the png file as linked, and open it with a graphic program, then the downloaded version are different in Opera and Chrome, too.

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  • #309
Yup, somthin' has a-changed. Old Firefox 43 on Win XP here.
Second icon used to show the lightbulb, now it shows thumbsdown. Hoovering over it shows text 'Informative'. When I click on it, (on Greg's post 306 above) it shows as Red Thumbsdown.

Trying a Copy Image here:
Hmm, it copied the text, not the image. (I'm getting behind, same result after Greg purged the file from CDN and I did a page refresh)

I note that the second emoji has "id=7", the rest are in numeric order
Greg Bernhardt said:
Just did an exhaustive search and that .png file does not reside on this computer, even though I've used a couple Likes in this session.
 
  • #312
OOPS! the repeat only shows up in the local edit window; not in what gets posted.

PLEASE IGNORE, OR DELETE, THIS AND THE TWO PRIOR POSTS.o:)
 
  • #313
BillTre said:
But is still labelled informative if you hover over it.
Yes, the labels are the same as before.
fresh_42 said:
I get those with Opera! (Haven't installed Firefox here.)
The interesting fact is, I am not getting the red icons from Chrome on my laptop (Win 10, the latest version of chrome). The screenshot that I posted was from Chrome on Android.
Greg Bernhardt said:
Clear your browser caches
I see the red icons on Android even after clearing cache and cookies.
Greg Bernhardt said:
From laptop, I am seeing the yellow icons, but from Android, I am seeing the red icons, same as what @fresh_42 posted in #307.

Everything was tried on Chrome, no other browser was used.
 
  • #314
Greg Bernhardt said:
No changes in Opera. The "like" I set was said "informative" with "thumb down" shown, and the "download linked content" led to the wrong png file, too, displayed by an image program, no browser.

I think the file is not what makes the difference, it is the interpreters which do. Can you post the file as an attachment rather than a link? I would like to see what happens if I download the file without being interpreted by the browser first and see what happens.

The only solution I see is, either to change the two icons into something which is not interpreted differently or to drop them. Of course I don't know whether this is a "quickly done" or "impossible" change.
 
  • #315
fresh_42 said:
No changes in Opera. The "like" I set was said "informative" with "thumb down" shown, and the "download linked content" led to the wrong png file, too, displayed by an image program, no browser.

When you click the CDN link, you see a image with the "thumbs down" icon?

fresh_42 said:
I think the file is not what makes the difference, it is the interpreters which do.

What is an interpreter?
 
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  • #316
Greg Bernhardt said:
When you click the CDN link, you see a image with the "thumbs down" icon?
Yes.
 
  • #317
I know the issue, should be fixed now
 
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  • #318
Greg Bernhardt said:
When you click the CDN link, you see a image with the "thumbs down" icon?
When I click the link then I use the browser as image viewer, and all is as described: correct in chrome (W10), wrong in Opera. I wanted to test the file itself.
What is an interpreter?
The various browsers. They interpret the code line by line, or meanwhile tag by tag, in contrast to a program which needs a compiled code and executes the compilation.

App.:
Back in Chrome to see what my "informative" did here.
The good news is, it is shown as "informative" on this platform.
The bad news is, it shows "Tom G" as the one who set the mark, not me.
 
  • #319
Fixed in Opera and Firefox, and the marks carry the correct author "you" now.✌

:bow:

:partytime:
 
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  • #320
Greg Bernhardt said:
I know the issue, should be fixed now
Just out of curiosity, where was the issue?
 
  • #321
Wrichik Basu said:
Just out of curiosity, where was the issue?
I upgraded PFs core software a few days ago, it overwrote the custom reaction image.
 
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  • #322
fresh_42 said:
The bad news is, it shows "Tom G" as the one who set the mark, not me.
I'm hiding everywhere[/size].
(And didn't even know it! What a waste. :oldbiggrin:)
 
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  • #323
  • #324
Looks like the same to me, just with and without About information given.
 
  • #325
Tom.G said:
When viewing a particular members Information page, clicking on the "About" button brings up the "Conversation" window, not the About window.

This does not occur with all members. It does occur here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/members/kenny1999.209603/#about
I get the same thing. No "about" and a link to start a conversation
 
  • #326
phinds said:
I get the same thing. No "about" and a link to start a conversation
Yes, since there is no About information entered and the conversation button is always there.
 
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  • #327
fresh_42 said:
Yes, since there is no About information entered and the conversation button is always there.
Ah ha.
 
  • #328
fresh_42 said:
Yes, since there is no About information entered and the conversation button is always there.
OKaay... try this logically similar situtation.
Three Four push buttons on a panel, labelled Up, Down, Pause, Fire.
You push the Pause button.
The Pause function is not implemented.
What random function should be activated?
 
  • #329
Tom.G said:
OKaay... try this logically similar situtation.
Three Four push buttons on a panel, labelled Up, Down, Pause, Fire.
You push the Pause button.
The Pause function is not implemented.
What random function should be activated?
I don't understand this comparison. The About button does what it does with every user. Some have disclosed personal information, other have not. Thus it is empty. At the bottom of the About page is always the "Start Conversation" option. Well, not always. I couldn't start a conversation with myself.
 
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  • #331
fresh_42 said:
At the bottom of the About page is always the "Start Conversation" option.
Odd, I don't seem to have that option. . . always thought it was there ?

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  • #332
OCR said:
Odd, I don't seem to have that option. . . always thought it was there ?
It is now above the "About" button, on the same row as the "Find" button. It does not appear when you look at your own account.
 
  • #333
Tom.G said:
It does not appear when you look at your own account.
Not even in the Quantum Physics Forum ?. . . I'm devastated ! . :oldcry:
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  • #334
fresh_42 said:
At the bottom of the About page is always the "Start Conversation" option.
That occurs here ONLY when the About field is empty. It does not appear if the member has filled in the About page.
fresh_42 said:
I don't understand this comparison.
I was trying to say that the optimal behaviour when selecting an operation is to receive an informative result, not a random result if there is a problem.

It's as if someone filled in the wrong 'Else' branch of an If-Then-Else instruction when About is clicked.
 
  • #335
OCR said:
Not even in the Quantum Physics Forum ?. . . I'm devastated !
Yes, a real problem with Multiple Personality syndrome.

(Who wrote that using my name?)
 
  • #336
Hey. . . c'mon now !
1564107005844.png

. . . :oldlaugh:
 
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  • #337
Tom.G said:
. . . is to receive an informative result not a random result. . .
Even in the Quantum Physics Forum ? . . . . :nb)
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  • #338
OCR said:
Even in the Quantum Physics Forum ? . . . . :nb)
I would hazard an "Indeterminate", at least until the cat is out of the bag err box.
 
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  • #339
Tom.G said:
That occurs here ONLY when the About field is empty. It does not appear if the member has filled in the About page.
It does - below the information the user put in. See OCR's profile for example.
It doesn't show up for you in your profile because starting a conversation with yourself is not a supported forum feature.
 
  • #340
mfb said:
It does - below the information the user put in. See OCR's profile for example.
Hmm, either we are talking about different things/positions or it is computer dependent.

Things wrapped a bit, but here is a capture of OCRs About page. Note the "Conversation" button appears only above the personal data.

Following OCRs page is Kenny1999 About page. Note that Kenny1999 page ends with "Start Conversation", replacing the absent personal data.OCR


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  • #342
mfb said:
Here is a screenshot.
And another one, the full view, the one I see, anyway. . . . :oldshy:

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  • #343
mfb said:
Looks like OCR has conversations disabled. . .
You sure ?

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  • #344
Strange. If I look at your profile without special rights I don't see the "start a conversation" link there. It seems to be there sometimes but not always. It is not 1:1 related to the profile information as the example of Greg shows.

@Greg Bernhardt: What is going on here? Why is the conversation start link in the profile for some users but not for all - without special permissions?
 
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  • #345
Tom.G said:
When viewing a particular members Information page, clicking on the "About" button brings up the "Conversation" window, not the About window.

This does not occur with all members. It does occur here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/members/kenny1999.209603/#about
That is because the user has set no "About", i.e. none of the fields in the about section for that user is filled.
 
  • #346
mfb said:
@Greg Bernhardt: What is going on here? Why is the conversation start link in the profile for some users but not for all - without special permissions?
What do you mean "without special permissions"? Using a few test accounts, I always had the option.
 
  • #347
I was making new posts (responses) today and have the following happen:

I made a few different inserted quotes separated by some returns (there were to returned to and responded to),
I then typed in text in various places,
At some point, I tried either bolding some text or turning some of the text into a link. Then paragraphs further down the page would either get bolded or linked. Undoing the changes by changing back the original changed text would also change back the lower paragraphs. The lower paragraphs could be individually unlinked or unbolded.

I think this might have had something to do with my inserting of the quotes at the beginning, but not sure.
This post, for example, had no problems.
 
  • #348
Greg Bernhardt said:
What do you mean "without special permissions"? Using a few test accounts, I always had the option.
Check the bottom of OCR's "about" tab in the profile with a test account. There won't be a "Start a conversation" link (or any contact information). For you and for @kenny1999 there is. Where does the difference come from?
 
  • #349
mfb said:
Check the bottom of OCR's "about" tab in the profile with a test account. There won't be a "Start a conversation" link (or any contact information). For you and for @kenny1999 there is. Where does the difference come from?
Is there some minimum amount of posts required before a new user is allowed to send private messages? I seem to remember a restriction on new members sending private messages after some users were getting spam from new accounts. If your test account is new, this may be the source of the problem.
 
  • #350
Howdy Greg,

Trouble with the "Like" button extended icons. 'Like' and 'removing Like' work as before. Can no longer press the light bulb icon or any others. Usually browse with Firefox but posted this while testing Chrome incognito. Sometimes the icons appear with Firefox but only 'Like' appears after touch. Cleared cache, rebooted. No go.

Minor problem. Could be related to my touch settings in Windows. Will experiment.

Windows 8.2 on Acer (Fry's) laptop. COX Comm. wireless home network.

thanks, Norm
 

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