PH Indicator and Endpoint Observations

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The discussion centers on the titration of a weak base with a strong acid, specifically addressing the endpoint and equivalence point volumes. Participants agree that the endpoint volume is lower than the equivalence point volume, leading to an underestimation of the moles of strong acid and the molarity of the weak base. The use of phenolphthalein as an indicator is highlighted, with emphasis on stopping the titration at the first color change, which occurs before reaching the equivalence point. The importance of understanding the gradual nature of color change over a range of pH values is also noted.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of acid-base titration principles
  • Knowledge of phenolphthalein as a pH indicator
  • Familiarity with equivalence point vs. endpoint in titrations
  • Basic concepts of molarity and mole calculations
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  • Study the differences between endpoint and equivalence point in titrations
  • Learn about various acid-base indicators and their pH transition ranges
  • Explore the titration process using weak bases and strong acids
  • Investigate the effects of color change timing on titration results
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Chemistry students, laboratory technicians, and educators involved in teaching or conducting acid-base titrations will benefit from this discussion.

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A weak base is titrated with a strong acid.
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I think that both B and C are correct. The endpoint volume will be lower than the actual equivalence point volume. When the student mistakenly assumes the endpoint volume is the equivalence point volume, the number of moles of strong acid is seen as equal to the number of moles of weak base. The calculated number of moles of strong acid would be lower (because of the lower volume), and the molarity of the weak base would also be lower.

The answer says only B is correct. Could anyone explain why, and where I went wrong? Thanks.
 
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I see nothing wrong in your explanation, I would choose B and C as well.

Funny thing is, this titration is still doable, you just have to do it in the opposite direction and stop at the first color change. That's how titrations against phenolphthaleine are done :smile:
 
Borek said:
Funny thing is, this titration is still doable, you just have to do it in the opposite direction and stop at the first color change. That's how titrations against phenolphthaleine are done :smile:
Thanks, though I don't really understand the above part. If you do it in the opposite direction, the color change is still not at the equivalence point...
 
i_love_science said:
Thanks, though I don't really understand the above part. If you do it in the opposite direction, the color change is still not at the equivalence point...
Which is why you stop at the first sight of color change. Color change is not instantaneous, it takes place gradually over at least 2 pH units. In the case of phenolphthalein it means the color change (when titrating strong acid with a strong base) starts quite closely to the equivalence.

Compare http://www.titrations.info/acid-base-titration-indicators
 

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