PhD while having a job in academia.

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and experiences of individuals who hold academic positions while pursuing an additional PhD, potentially part-time, in a different field at the same university. The scope includes personal anecdotes, institutional policies, and the challenges faced by those balancing work and further education.

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  • Some participants inquire about the possibility of working in academia while pursuing another PhD, questioning institutional policies regarding this scenario.
  • Others mention that several professionals have successfully pursued part-time PhD programs, often through distance learning.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential challenges of balancing academic work with PhD studies, including the risk of not completing the degree.
  • Experiences are shared regarding individuals who have held academic positions while being graduate students, highlighting variations in regulations and pay rates across institutions.
  • Specific examples are provided, including a professor who pursued a second PhD in a different field and a lecturer who was also a graduate student, illustrating diverse paths taken by individuals in academia.

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Participants express a range of experiences and opinions, with no clear consensus on the policies or best practices regarding pursuing a PhD while employed in academia. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility and implications of such a pursuit.

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Limitations include varying institutional regulations, individual circumstances, and the potential impact of academic work on PhD completion rates. Specific details about the policies of different universities are not fully explored.

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I am just looking to see if anyone knows people who have an academic job (as lecturers and/or researchers) and who have continued learning for another PhD (maybe part time) in another field in the same university?

Is this even allowed while you work at that university?

I am just wondering.

Thanks in advance. (yes it does seem to be masochistic :-)).
 
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I think you are talking about "graduate students."
 
fss said:
I think you are talking about "graduate students."
:smile:
 
fss said:
I think you are talking about "graduate students."

Ok, I will refine my query.

People who have a job in academia which pays more than a "grad-student stipends", and do another PhD?
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
People who have a job in academia which pays more than a "grad-student stipends", and do another PhD?

I know several working professionals that do/have done part-time classes (usually via distance learning) to earn their PhD.
 
What do they work in?
And in what field is their latter PhDs?
 
History, Information Systems, English, Computer Science, Information Assurance, a few others I can't remember.
 
I knew a few people who took an instructor/lecturer position while in grad school, but they never ended up finishing their PhDs even though they intended to (there were in physics and astronomy). It might seem like a good idea at the time (experience, more pay) but they can really get in the way.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
I am just looking to see if anyone knows people who have an academic job (as lecturers and/or researchers) and who have continued learning for another PhD (maybe part time) in another field in the same university?
I knew someone who had a phd from a foreign country and was a grad student in a different field in the states, but he was bound to all the same regulations as a grad student without a phd (so he couldn't teach certain classes, lower pay rate, etc.) Every school is different about what they allow and what they don't.
 
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My community college general physics professor was a grad student AND lecturer at the nearby university, UMBC. He had a master's degree in electrical engineering and was a practicing EE for years before deciding to go to the Ph.D. program.

I imagine he's still working on the Ph.D, as it's only been a year since I last had him for a class.
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
I am just looking to see if anyone knows people who have an academic job (as lecturers and/or researchers) and who have continued learning for another PhD (maybe part time) in another field in the same university?

Yes, I know a professor of Biology in a British university who decided to get another PhD about complex system in another country. Whether for sake of knowledge or not, he did.

Ll.
 

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