Photon producing Electron-Positron pair's effect on c.

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The discussion centers on the misconception that a photon can "split" into an electron-positron pair, potentially affecting its measured speed relative to the speed of light (c). Participants clarify that this interpretation arises from heuristic representations in Feynman diagrams, which are part of the Dyson Series in quantum field theory (QFT). They emphasize that such interpretations are misleading and that understanding photons requires a solid foundation in relativistic QFT, as mathematical frameworks are essential for accurately discussing quantum phenomena.

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Hello all, disclaimer here, I haven't taken quantum mechanics yet, all I know of it comes form books and PBS Space Time Series.

Since a photon can, at any given instant, "split" into an Electron-Positron pair, does it mean that if this occurs between point a and b, the measured speed o that photon would be lower than c? Because Electrons and Positrons cannot travel at c.
Thus, this effect would be magnified over large distances, as the photon would have many chances to split and recombine.
I still know little about the process, maybe because they are virtual particles this doesn't apply or something...
 
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abilolado said:
Since a photon can, at any given instant, "split" into an Electron-Positron pair

its a common misconception bought about by reading lay textbooks on QFT. Its not really true - so don't draw and conclusions from it.

It comes from interpreting in a heuristic way Feynman diagrams, But Feynman diagrams are pictorial representations of a so called Dyson Series:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_series

These ideas of splitting, positrons are electrons traveling back in time (that one is really a bit silly, it would also mean electrons are positrons traveling back in time - but its a heuristic picture we are stuck with), etc, are simply heuristics drawn from the diagrams - they sometimes help in solving and understanding problems- but are in fact wrong.

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Bill
 
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You cannot understand photons without studying relativistic QFT. Photons are so far from anything we are used to in everyday experience that it is impossible to adequately speak about them in a non-mathematical way! Without math a lot of quantum physics is not communicable in an adequate way, and photons are among these topics.
 

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