Physics Behind Time Loops In Movies?

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The discussion centers on the lack of scientific basis for time loops as depicted in films like "Groundhog Day" and "Edge of Tomorrow." Participants agree that while gravity can cause differential aging, it does not enable time looping. The closest cinematic representation of time manipulation is found in "Interstellar," which explores time dilation near a black hole. The conversation highlights the imaginative appeal of time loops in storytelling, despite their absence in real physics.

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  • Understanding of General Relativity
  • Familiarity with Closed Timelike Curves (CTCs)
  • Basic knowledge of time dilation concepts
  • Awareness of the role of gravity in space-time
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  • Investigate the role of gravity in altering the perception of time
  • Examine the use of time loops as a narrative device in science fiction
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Physics enthusiasts, science fiction writers, and anyone interested in the intersection of theoretical physics and storytelling will benefit from this discussion.

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I was just wondering if there is any physics behind the time loops in the movies Groundhog Day or Edge of Tomorrow.
 
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The short answer is no. There's no mechanism to explain how the time loop works. Its just used as an interesting story device.

When talking about time loops, the closest movie might be Interstellar where the astronauts experience time dilation while working near a black hole.
 
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I believe the only known mechanism to alter Time, is gravity. so if you had a situation where time was so distorted that it bent back on itself, then you would also be in the presence of a gravity well so enormous that time looping would be the least of your worries.
 
DHF said:
I believe the only known mechanism to alter Time, is gravity. so if you had a situation where time was so distorted that it bent back on itself, then you would also be in the presence of a gravity well so enormous that time looping would be the least of your worries.
Gravity cannot cause time looping. As Jedishrfu already pointed out, it can cause differential aging, that's all.
 
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DHF said:
I believe the only known mechanism to alter Time, is gravity.
To be completely clear, gravity does NOT "alter time", it simply provides an alternate path through space-time which results in differential aging. Clocks always tick locally at one second per second.
 
phinds said:
To be completely clear, gravity does NOT "alter time", it simply provides an alternate path through space-time which results in differential aging. Clocks always tick locally at one second per second.
Thank you for the clarification.
 
The reason so many people (me included) love sci-fi stories with time loops is the imagination. It is fun! A modern way to tell fairy tales. Nobody of today is really afraid of mean wolves, but the implications of the grandfather paradox are funny. And once you have a contradiction in your system, you can justify everything, which gets the story teller even more freedoms and us watchers or readers more fun.
 
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TheQuestionGuy14 said:
I was just wondering if there is any physics behind the time loops in the movies Groundhog Day or Edge of Tomorrow.

Yes, there is. At what level do you want an answer?
 
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George Jones said:
Yes, there is. At what level do you want an answer?
What do you mean by level? Also, are you talking about Closed Timelike Curves? I've heard of those recently.
 
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Yes, I mean closed timelike curves.

By "level", I mean "What background in physics and math do you have?" It is okay if you don't have any background in physics and math, but I will try to write a detailed answer with your background in mind. This might not happen today.
 
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George Jones said:
Yes, I mean closed timelike curves.

By "level", I mean "What background in physics and math do you have?" It is okay if you don't have any background in physics and math, but I will try to write a detailed answer with your background in mind. This might not happen today.
I have a basic background. I studied General Relativity and touched a little on CTCs, I'd like to hear your detailed answer though. :wink:
 

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