Physics or Math & Physics: Which Program Should I Choose?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for a student accepted into the physics program at McGill University, specifically choosing between the Honours Physics program and the Joint Honours Math & Physics program. Participants explore the implications of each choice on future studies and career paths, including theoretical physics and biophysics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to choose the Honours Physics program or the Joint Honours Math & Physics program, noting the differences in course requirements and potential future studies.
  • Another participant suggests that the Joint Honours program allows for taking physics courses as electives, which could provide a balance between both disciplines.
  • A participant who is currently in the Math & Physics program shares their experience, indicating that while there are fewer free slots for electives, it is still possible to take advanced physics courses in later years.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of an undergraduate research thesis, which is included in the physics program but not in the joint program.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived value of having a double degree versus a single degree in terms of job prospects, though no definitive conclusions are drawn.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value of the Joint Honours program versus the Honours Physics program, with no consensus reached on which option is superior. Some participants highlight the benefits of additional math courses, while others emphasize the importance of research experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific course options and requirements, indicating that choices may depend on individual interests and career goals. The discussion reflects a variety of personal experiences and perspectives regarding the programs.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering undergraduate programs in physics or mathematics, particularly those interested in the specific offerings at McGill University.

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Hello. I have been accepted to the physics program at McGill university and I have to choose one of their programs. However I cannot seem to decide between these two:

Honours Physics: http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/ugrads/honours.html

Joint Honours Math & Physics: http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/ugrads/math.html

The difference is mainly that you replace a thesis and some grad-level physics courses (such as general relativity, introduction to string theory, particle physics, etc) for some basic undegrad math (Analysis 1, 2, 3 Algebra 1, 2 Differential geometry.. etc)

I love both math and physics but I am not entirely sure of what I would like to do next. I believe it would be either theoretical physics or biophysics. I would not consider grad studies in mathematics though.

I could always take the math courses as electives if I choose the physics program, but then I would not graduate with both degrees.

What do you think would be best?

Thank you!
 
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And how about you do the Math&Physics program and choose the physics courses (GR, String theory, particle physics) as electives? Is that an option?

Personally I would also prefer a physics grad study over pure mathematics, but I have doubled my undergrad in physics and math and found the additional math courses to be extremely helpful.
Whether you want the double degree, is up to you. Of course, it always looks so much cooler when you have both, but if it will make a difference (e.g. you will get a job sooner with a double degree than just one) I cannot tell you: I don't have any experience with that (yet) and it probably differs from one country to another.
 
I guess I could do that! (Although it would mean having no more room for a language or some other interesting course outside of math/physics)

In what way were your math courses helpful?

and

How important do you think an undergrad research thesis is? (the joint program does not have one, the physics program does)

Thanks again!
 
Well, I'm in Math&Physics at Mcgill. You can still do GR, intro to string theory and all that in U3, you just don't have as many free slots. Yes, you can take them as electives, though you only get 3. In your first year, the only difference is that you'll be doing Algebra I in your first term (which I recommend if you have some interest in math) as opposed to an elective. In your second term, when you have math you'll have a choice between applied linear algebra or algebra 2 (which is also linear algebra, but more theoretical). From what I've heard from people who did applied lin. algebra, the professor is horrible, so you may want to stay away from that class (which you can't do if you haven't done algebra I). For U2, the difference is that you have one less elective in math and you don't get to do lab in modern physics, though I think you can do it in U3. You can always do an honours research project in U3...
Bottom line, I'd really recommend taking Algebra I in your first term, just to get a feel for what the math side of the program is (Ad. Cal doesn't really do it justice). If that's not your cup of tea, then go into just physics.
 
Oh wow, thanks for the advice. I will give the joint program a try.

Thanks again!
 

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