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Imagine thee planets interacting through gravity, mathematically how should they come and rotate in a same plane, like planets and sun?
The discussion centers on the mathematical and physical principles governing the planar orbits of planets around the sun, particularly focusing on the conditions under which multiple bodies can rotate in a single plane due to gravitational interactions. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding the dynamics of three or more point masses.
Participants express differing views on whether three point masses will naturally rotate in a single plane without collisions. While some agree on the geometric principle that three points define a plane, others contend that additional factors, such as gravitational interactions, are necessary for establishing a stable orbital plane.
Limitations include the assumption that gravitational interactions are the sole factor influencing the motion of the bodies, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how these interactions lead to a stable planar configuration.
Shubham135 said:Imagine thee planets interacting through gravity, mathematically how should they come and rotate in a same plane, like planets and sun?
A.T. said:
but rotation can be in two planes, think about it, a point fixed at origin second point rotating aroung it in xy plane and third one in yz plane.Vanadium 50 said:Three points determine a plane.
It applies to 3 particles too, but collisions are less likely.Shubham135 said:sir i heard all that the galaxies started as dust and then it cooled and due to angular momentum conservation it happrnd, but my question is that if three point masses
I think the OP means a plane that contains the Sun too, and has a fixed orientation in an inertial frame.Vanadium 50 said:Three points determine a plane.
Shubham135 said:think about it
Vanadium 50 said:Good advice.
Three points determine a plane. Three bodies will always be in a plane. It is true that that plane may not be constant in a particular coordinate system (e.g. one where everything is moving up with some velocity) but that is always true.
If you are talking about three planets and the sun, you should say so and do it clearly.
So they don't come into a place through collisions ..sp how do they come in the plane?A.T. said:It applies to 3 particles too, but collisions are less likely.
I mean three particles..if collisions are less likely ..let say one has radius of orbit twise as big than the other and they rotate around sun with sun at center in circular orbits...and their axis of rotation are perpendicular..will they cone to an intermediate plane?Shubham135 said:So they don't come into a place through collisions ..sp how do they come in the plane?
so the collisions is the only culprit here? or can we say they come into plane through mutual graviational attraction?A.T. said:No.
Without collisions, they won't necessarily tend towards one plane.Shubham135 said:I mean three particles..if collisions are less likely ..let say one has radius of orbit twise as big than the other and they rotate around sun with sun at center in circular orbits...and their axis of rotation are perpendicular..will they cone to an intermediate plane?