Planck's constant and quantization of energy

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The discussion centers on the relationship between Planck's constant, the wave vector ##\textbf{k}##, and the quantization of energy. Participants explore whether the continuous nature of ##\textbf{k}## implies that energy is also continuous or quantized, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and bound states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the equation ##\textbf{E}=\hbar \textbf{k}## implies quantization of energy if ##\textbf{k}## can vary continuously, drawing a parallel to a linear equation that does not suggest quantization.
  • Another participant agrees that for energy to be quantized, ##\textbf{k}## must also be quantized, specifically in the context of bound states.
  • A different participant states that energy quantization arises from solving Schrödinger's equation for bound states, noting that in certain potentials, ##k## can only take on discrete values.
  • One participant expresses a preference against using the ##\mathrm{i} c t## convention in discussions of quantum field theory, suggesting it may lead to confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of a continuous ##\textbf{k}## for energy quantization, with some asserting that quantization occurs only in specific contexts like bound states, while others challenge the assumptions underlying these claims. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of ##\hbar## and its role beyond being a unit conversion.

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Participants highlight the dependence of energy quantization on the context of bound states and the solutions to Schrödinger's equation, indicating that the discussion is limited by these specific conditions.

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Given:
##\textbf{E}=\hbar \textbf{k}##
where ##\textbf{k} = [\vec{k}_1, \vec{k}_2,\vec{k}_3, i c \omega]##
If ##\textbf{k}## can vary continuously, how does the equation imply that energy is quantized?

For example, ##y = m x +b## where ##m = \hbar## does not imply quantized ##y##.
For ##\textbf{E}## to be quantized mustn't ##\textbf{k}## be quantized?

And why should ##\hbar## be considered anything other than a unit conversion?
 
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redtree said:
For ##\textbf{E}## to be quantized mustn't ##\textbf{k}## be quantized?
Right. For bound states it is.
And why should ##\hbar## be considered anything other than a unit conversion?
You can work in units where it is equal to 1. Yes, it is just a unit conversion - but the fact that this conversion is possible is not trivial.
 
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redtree said:
If k\textbf{k} can vary continuously, how does the equation imply that energy is quantized?
It doesn't. Quantization of energy appears when you solve Schrödinger's equation for bound states. The simplest example is the one-dimensional infinite square well; in the solutions to Schrödinger's equation for that potential ##k## can only take on discrete values.
 
...and please don't use the awful ##\mathrm{i} c t## convention of the SRT pseudometric. Particularly when it comes to QFT, with that you'll confuse yourself even more than the subject itself can ever do when done in the real-time formalism ;-).
 

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