Poll: Soccer Cup Matches with Viewers' Votes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proposal to replace penalty shootouts in soccer matches, particularly in knockout cup formats, with a voting system where viewers determine which team advances based on their votes. Participants explore the implications of such a system, comparing it to talent competitions that utilize viewer voting.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that viewer voting could replace penalty shootouts in soccer matches, suggesting it as a method to engage fans more directly.
  • Others question the feasibility of replacing entire matches with voting, raising concerns about the integrity of the sport.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between talent shows and international soccer matches, particularly regarding vested interests, potential for cheating, and the influence of gambling and organized crime.
  • One participant notes that talent shows are designed to maximize TV ratings and revenue, which may not align with the values of competitive sports.
  • A participant recalls that few knockout stage matches in the Soccer World Cup are decided in extra time, suggesting that moving directly to penalty shootouts could be more efficient.
  • Another participant emphasizes the emotional engagement of viewers in talent shows as a driving factor for their voting systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability and appropriateness of implementing a voting system in soccer matches. There is no consensus on whether this system should be adopted, and various concerns about its implications are raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues such as the integrity of the voting process, the influence of external factors like gambling, and the differences in audience engagement between sports and entertainment shows. These factors remain unresolved within the discussion.

Should knock-out soccer championships (e.g. cups) use viewers' vote?

  • Yes, I want viewers to vote for determining match winner

  • No, stick to penalty shootout instead

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Hello all,

In talent competition (such as GotTalent), acts that would be advanced to next rounds (and eventually winners), are determined entirely by viewers' votes (either via telephone, SMS, or affiliated applications.

I wish the similar mechanism can be used into soccer matches (especially on knock-out cup matches). This replace penalty shootout with viewers' votes. Team with most vote percentages than its rivals can be advanced into next round.

Should we adopt this system? Poll and discuss.
 
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Why don't replace whole match with voting?
 
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bagasme said:
In talent competition (such as GotTalent), acts that would be advanced to next rounds (and eventually winners), are determined entirely by viewers' votes (either via telephone, SMS, or affiliated applications.
Why do these show have such a system?

bagasme said:
I wish the similar mechanism can be used into soccer matches (especially on knock-out cup matches). This replace penalty shootout with viewers' votes. Team with most vote percentages than its rivals can be advanced into next round.
What is different between a talent show and an international soccer match? Think in terms of vested interest, possibility for cheating, and the role of gambling and organized crime.

bagasme said:
Should we adopt this system? Poll and discuss.
You haven't really thought much about this, have you?
 
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DrClaude said:
Why do these show have such a system?What is different between a talent show and an international soccer match? Think in terms of vested interest, possibility for cheating, and the role of gambling and organized crime.You haven't really thought much about this, have you?

I hope FIFA can consider this thread for their next experiments
 
bagasme said:
I hope FIFA can consider this thread for their next experiments
DrClaude said:
You haven't really thought much about this, have you?
And you haven't really played competitive sports at a high level, have you?
 
DrClaude said:
Why do these show have such a system?
It's a TV show popularity contest to get the highest TV viewership ratings and revenue for the show's producers.
 
I remember looking through the drawn matches at the knock-out stages of the Soccer World Cup and noticing that very few were decided during the extra half-hour. I don't have the figures, but I think it was about one in three. There's a case, IMO, to go straight to a penalty shoot-out after 90 minutes.

At the last world cup, for example, there were five drawn matches in the knock-out stages. Only one was decided in extra time and four went to penalties. The extra time is, IMO, largely a waste of time.
 
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berkeman said:
It's a TV show popularity contest to get the highest TV viewership ratings and revenue for the show's producers.
In PF fashion, I was asking the question to get the OP to think about it. For a talent show, it is all about getting the viewers emotionally engaged and to get them to shed some money, then more money, then even more money :smile:
 
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