Polynomial Challenge: Find $k$ Integral Values

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The discussion revolves around finding all integral values of \( k \) such that the polynomial \( q(a) = a^3 + 2a + k \) divides the polynomial \( p(a) = a^{12} - a^{11} + 3a^{10} + 11a^3 - a^2 + 23a + 30 \). The focus includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning regarding the roots of \( p(a) \).

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Participants are tasked with finding integral values of \( k \) for the polynomial division problem.
  • One participant claims that \( p(a) \) has no positive roots, suggesting this conclusion is based on observation.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the reasoning behind the assertion that \( p(a) \) has no positive roots, indicating a potential reliance on an unspecified theorem.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the behavior of \( p(a) \) for \( a \geq 1 \) and \( 0 < a < 1 \), asserting that \( p(a) \) remains positive in these intervals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the reasoning behind the conclusion that \( p(a) \) has no positive roots, as one participant questions the validity of the observation while another supports it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of this conclusion for finding integral values of \( k \).

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the assumptions or theorems that may apply to the analysis of the roots of \( p(a) \), leaving some mathematical steps and reasoning open to interpretation.

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Find all integral values of $k$ such that $q(a)=a^3+2a+k$ divides $p(a)=a^{12}-a^{11}+3a^{10}+11a^3-a^2+23a+30$.
 
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anemone said:
Find all integral values of $k$ such that $q(a)=a^3+2a+k$ divides $p(a)=a^{12}-a^{11}+3a^{10}+11a^3-a^2+23a+30$.
let:$p(a)=a^{12}-a^{11}+3a^{10}+11a^3-a^2+23a+30----(1)$
p(a) has no positive root and p(a) has at most two negative roots
if (1)=0 then the solutions of (1) must be negative
if a<0 is the integer root of (1) then a divides 30
by checking a=-1
$\therefore q(-1)=-1-2+k=0 $
we have :$k=3$
 
Albert said:
let:$p(a)=a^{12}-a^{11}+3a^{10}+11a^3-a^2+23a+30----(1)$
p(a) has no positive root
Thanks for your solution, Albert!:) But, how do you conclude that $p(a)$ has no positive root(s)? I'm sensing perhaps you're using some theorem that I'm not aware of?
 
anemone said:
Thanks for your solution, Albert!:) But, how do you conclude that $p(a)$ has no positive root(s)? I'm sensing perhaps you're using some theorem that I'm not aware of?
it is easy to conclude that $p(a)$ has no positive root (only by observation)
if $a\geq 1$ then :
$p(a)=(a^{12}-a^{11})+(11a^3-a^2)+3a^{10}+23a+30>0$
if $0<a< 1$ then :
$p(a)=(3a^{10}-a^{11})+(23a-a^2)+a^{12}+11a^3+30>0$
 
Albert said:
it is easy to conclude that $p(a)$ has no positive root (only by observation)
if $a\geq 1$ then :
$p(a)=(a^{12}-a^{11})+(11a^3-a^2)+3a^{10}+23a+30>0$
if $0<a< 1$ then :
$p(a)=(3a^{10}-a^{11})+(23a-a^2)+a^{12}+11a^3+30>0$

Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification reply, Albert!
 

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