Nucleosynthesis of PopIII Core Collapse Supernovae

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The discussion revolves around the nucleosynthesis of Population III (Pop III) core collapse supernovae and their implications for the abundances of extremely metal-poor stars. Participants explore theoretical models, observational data, and the characteristics of early stars in the universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a paper analyzing the abundances in extremely metal-poor stars based on theoretical presupernova models and explosions of zero metallicity massive stars.
  • There is a discussion about the mass range of Pop III stars, with one participant noting that the standard model underproduces nitrogen and oxygen, while aluminum is better fitted, and questioning the significance of the [102 - 104] M⊙ range.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the speculative nature of the paper being discussed.
  • Another participant summarizes several points, including the early metallicity observed in quasar spectra, the re-ionization of the intergalactic medium, and the implications of primordial gas on star formation, suggesting that Pop III stars would be more massive than later populations.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of observed bright Pop III stars and their potential role in the re-ionization and early metallicity of the universe, as well as the existence of massive black holes in galactic centers possibly linked to Pop III stars.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the speculative nature of the current understanding of Pop III stars and their nucleosynthesis, while others raise questions about specific mass ranges and the implications of existing observations. No consensus is reached on the significance of the findings or the characteristics of Pop III stars.

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Participants highlight limitations in current knowledge, including uncertainties regarding the mass range of Pop III stars, the observational evidence for their existence, and the implications of their nucleosynthesis on early cosmic evolution.

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http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0507340

Nucleosynthesis of PopIII Core Collapse Supernovae and the Abundances of Extremely Metal Poor Stars
Authors: Marco Limongi (INAF-OAR), Alessandro Chieffi (INAF-IAS)
Comments: 6 pages, 4 figure, Proceedings of the IAU Symp. No. 228 "From Lithium to Uranium: Elemental Tracers of Early Cosmic Evolution", V.Hill, P.Francois & F.Primas eds

We present a new analysis of the abundances observed in extremely metal poor stars based on both a new generation of theoretical presupernova models and explosions of zero metallicity massive stars and a new abundance analysis of an homogeneous sample of stars having [Fe/H]<-2.5 (Cayrel et al. 2004).
 
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What mass range for Pop III stars? From that paper
The two lower panels of Figure 2 shows the comparison between the AGV04 star and the ejecta provided by a generation of massive stars (in the mass range 13-80 M) averaged over a Salpeter IMF for two choices of the slope \alpha . In particular, in the standard case (\alpha=-2.35), where the low mass massive stars dominate, N and O are both underproduced while Al is quite well fitted. An opposite behavior is found when the slope of the IMF is lower (\alpha=- 0.35) and the relative contribution of the more massive stars is higher. In any case N is significantly underestimated because the high primary N production occurs in a very narrow mass interval around the 25 M.
So not so very massive after all...
I wonder, what about the [102 - 104]M range?
Garth
 
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A very speculative paper in my estimation.
 
What does all this really mean?

~Kitty
 
misskitty said:
What does all this really mean?

~Kitty
That our knowledge of the first stars that formed out of the products of the BBN is very sketchy and speculative.

What we do know is:
1. There is very early metallicity observed in Lyman alpha forests of quasar spectra, back to z>6.
2. There was an extended period of re-ionisation of the IGM at an even earlier period prior to z=10.5.
3. Stars forming out of a primordial gas with little or zero metallicity would be more massive than PopI or PopII stars. This is because metallicity is important to radiate away energy to enable a proto-star to collapse; without it greater gravitational forces are required. Once formed massive stars are expected to have only short lifetimes and they and their demise are expected to have been very bright events. Such bright PopIII stars have not been observed, but it is conceivable that their hyper-novae could be the source of the background GRBs.
This population could therefore be the source of the re-ionisation and early metallicity, that is if there are enough of them.
4. There are massive black holes in galactic centres, which may have preceded and been part of the formation of the galaxies themselves.
5. There seems to be about 10X the amount of mass in galactic halos and clusters than can be directly observed. This may be partially or totally accounted for by BH's of various masses.

So it is probably correct to say that there are a lot of BHs about. Some of these may be the end product of a ubiquitous population of PopIII stars. The question is of what mass range, and why have these PopIII stars not been observed?

Garth
 

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