Position angle of Moon's bright limb (formula)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the position angle of the Moon's bright limb, specifically focusing on the formula provided in "Astronomical Algorithms" by Jean Meeus. Participants are seeking to understand the derivation of this formula, which involves spherical trigonometry and the geocentric coordinates of the Moon and Sun.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jeff inquires about the derivation of the position angle formula (46.5) for the Moon's bright limb, citing a lack of explanation in the source material.
  • Some participants note that the formula involves standard spherical trigonometric relations, specifically referencing the denominator as related to the sides of a spherical triangle.
  • There is a request for a diagram to illustrate the spherical triangle related to the formula, indicating a need for visual clarification.
  • Jeff later shares a link to a document that he claims contains the solution, suggesting that he found an external resource that may address the derivation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the derivation of the formula, as participants express uncertainty and seek further clarification through diagrams and additional resources.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of deriving the position angle formula and the reliance on visual aids for understanding spherical trigonometry. There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific steps in the derivation process.

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Hi everyone !

I have a question about the position angle of Moon's bright limb.
In "Astronomical Algorithms" (Jean Meeus), one can find the formula to calculate this angle (formula is tagged "46.5"), but there is no explanation about the derivation of this formula.

This is the formula "46.5" :

tan \chi = \frac{cos \delta_0.sin(\alpha_0 - \alpha)}{sin \delta_0.cos \delta - cos \delta_0.sin \delta.cos(\alpha_0 - \alpha)}

where \alpha, \delta are the geocentric right ascension and declination of the Moon and
\alpha_0, \delta_0 are the geocentric right ascension and declination of the Sun.

I think the derivation is maybe explained in the "Practical astronomy with your calculator" (Peter Duffett-Smith) but, unfortunately, I don't have this book at home.

Does anybody can explain the derivation of this formula 46.5 ?

Thanks (... and sorry for my approximative english)
Jeff (from France)
 
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Of course \chi is the so-called "position angle of the Moon's bright limb"...

Jeff from France
 
No one ?
 
Welcome to PF!

Hi Jeff! Welcome to PF! :wink:

Without a diagram, it's difficult to see what's what …

but the denominator is the standard spherical trig formula for cos of the side of a triangle if the other two sides are δ and 90º - δ0, and the opposite angle is α0 - α :smile:
 


Does anyone capable of tracing a diagram of this spherical triangle in order to understqnd the relation given above ?
 

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