Possible Explanation for Red Flickering of Betelgeuse Star in the Night Sky

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the observation of red flickering of the star Betelgeuse in the night sky. Participants explore potential reasons for this phenomenon, focusing on atmospheric effects and visibility conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the observation of red flickering in Betelgeuse and seeks explanations for this behavior.
  • Another participant suggests that the proximity of the star to the horizon affects the flickering, as light passing through more atmosphere can lead to greater variability.
  • A participant confirms that Betelgeuse was observed at least 45 degrees above the horizon, which may influence the flickering perception.
  • It is proposed that atmospheric effects are likely responsible for the flickering, even at higher altitudes.
  • One participant mentions that brighter stars like Betelgeuse are harder to discern flickering compared to dimmer stars, which may show more pronounced flickering through a telescope.
  • A participant expresses confusion about why nearby stars do not exhibit similar flickering, indicating a need for further clarification.
  • Another participant shares an observation of Sirius, noting its flickering colors when low on the horizon, suggesting similar atmospheric influences.
  • A participant acknowledges the shared curiosity about Betelgeuse's flickering, indicating a common interest in the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that atmospheric effects contribute to the flickering observed, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specific conditions under which this occurs and why nearby stars do not exhibit similar behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as the star's altitude and brightness, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying reasons for the flickering or the comparative behavior of other stars.

Who May Find This Useful

Astronomy enthusiasts, individuals interested in atmospheric phenomena, and those curious about star visibility and behavior in the night sky may find this discussion relevant.

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so I was just looking up at the sky, as you do...
and I noticed one star was flickering red, I believe it was betelgeuse - as far as i could see on my sky map app.
Could anyone tell me the reasoning for this flickering? as none of the other stars visible were doing this - at least as far as i could tell.

thanks
 
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How close was it to the horizon? If star light has to pass through lots of horizon before it gets to you the range of flickering will be much greater than a star above it.
 
At least 45 Degrees above the horizon.
 
Even at that height, this flickering would just be atmospheric effects.
 
Betelgeuse is pretty bright too. Flickering is much harder to discern with dimmer stars. You will see the flickering of the dimmer stars through a telescope.
 
Although this makes sense I'm still a little confused. Stars that are closer to the horizon and stars that are near the star in question do not have this flickering?

Edit:@chemisttree - ok that makes sense now, your reply was posted while typing mine. :)

thanks
 
Take a look at Sirius just after it becomes visible. It looks like police lights, going from red to blue to white and everything in between thanks to the atmosphere when it's low on the horizon.
 
Funny, I was looking at Betelgeuse a few nights ago and wondered the exact same thing.
 
Thanks for your replies everyone.
I shall be sure to check Sirius out :)
 

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