Predicting Worlds With Lower Gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical effects of a planet with lower gravity than Earth, specifically one with 0.92 times Earth's gravity. Participants explore various implications for the environment, biology, and geology of such a planet, as well as the experiences of Earth inhabitants moving to it. The conversation includes speculative reasoning and references to science fiction.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that trees might be slightly taller due to lower gravity, while others argue that tree height is more influenced by solar energy output and surface tension of water.
  • There is a proposal that the atmosphere on a planet with lower gravity may be thinner, akin to living at high altitudes.
  • Some participants note that a planet with 0.92g would not feel significantly different from Earth after a short period.
  • One participant raises the idea that lower gravity could affect geological processes like continental drift, suggesting a smaller planet might have a cooler mantle/core and lack moving tectonic plates.
  • Another participant mentions that both Mars and Venus have mountains despite lacking moving tectonic plates, questioning the assumptions about mountain formation on a lower gravity planet.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of a planet's position relative to its star and its effect on habitability and atmospheric retention.
  • Some participants discuss the variability of gravity on a planet due to factors like rotation and tidal locking, suggesting that gravity could differ across the planet's surface.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the implications of lower gravity, with no consensus reached on many points. Some ideas are contested, particularly regarding the effects on tree growth and geological activity.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of factors influencing planetary environments, such as atmospheric composition, solar energy, and geological activity, but do not resolve these complexities.

Who May Find This Useful

Writers and creators interested in speculative fiction, particularly those exploring scientific concepts in world-building, may find the discussion relevant.

Handerson Tjia
Thanks for visiting and reading this imaginary thread.

So, recently I tried to write a novel. It is an ongoing project, and very far from completition. I've read so many Sci-Fi stories before, and some do not follow general physics very well. I want to make a world that is believable, but also scientificly correct. It doesn't need to be so precise, but it has to differ a little bit. I wonder if this forum can help giving some enlightenment on the subject, despite it being Sci-Fi stuff.

I may ask for some thought exercise, what would happen in a planet that has 0.92 less gravity than Earth or 9 m/s2?

I've come up with some rough estimates, such as
- Trees being slightly taller
- People from Earth jump slightly higher
- People from this planet suffer fatigue and knee injury on Earth

So, if you have other ideas on what will happen to this planet and Earth people that move to it, let me know! I might ask for rough formula to your theories, for example h = 1/g on jump height.

Please feel free to go crazy on this thread! I might need all details I can get. Thank you.
 
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The atmosphere may be a little thinner, like living in the mountains, perhaps. Have you read any of Larry Niven's books? Neutron Star (I believe that's the name) is a collection of short stories. There are different worlds. There is a group of people called Belters in one of the stories. They live in the asteroid belt, mining the asteroids. Integral Trees is another interesting one, with low gravity.
 
Trees wouldn't necessarily be bigger, that has much more to do with the energy output of the sun.

There doesn't strike me as anything that would be obviously different at 92% gravity. I'd bet after only a few minutes on the surface, you wouldn't even feel a difference anymore. The planet would be about the same size as Earth.
 
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scottdave said:
The atmosphere may be a little thinner, like living in the mountains, perhaps.

Venus has slightly lower gravity, but much denser air.
 
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snorkack said:
Venus has slightly lower gravity, but much denser air.
Nice point. But is that due to the gasses which make up the atmosphere, or the gravity?
 
Titan also has a much thicker atmosphere than Earth and has about a sixth of the gravity.
 
newjerseyrunner said:
Trees wouldn't necessarily be bigger, that has much more to do with the energy output of the sun...

The surface tension of water has a much larger effect. I am fairly certain you subtract gravity. So lower gravity means the capillaries can transport water higher. Some trees break the rules. On the California coast water will condense directly out of the air. The redwoods are ridiculously huge because they bypassed the capillary limits. Some bromeliads take water out of the air and do not bother with soil at all.
Handerson Tjia said:
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I may ask for some thought exercise, what would happen in a planet that has 0.92 less gravity than Earth or 9 m/s2?

...Please feel free to go crazy on this thread! I might need all details I can get. Thank you.

One impact of lower gravity may be continental drift. A smaller planet could have a cooler mantle/core. Without moving plates and subduction zones the mountains would have eroded and would not get replaced. Probably a boring world.

0.92g tells us very little. Earth has density 5.5 g/cm2. Uranus has surface gravity 0.89g but it also has 4x Earth diameter. A water world could have a lower density than Earth but the effect of surface gravity would be trivial in your story. There is active debate about the survivability of atmospheres close to stars. You could get around that by increasing the size of the star and moving your planet's orbit out slightly. Whether or not the planet is inside the habitable zone will have a huge impact on what sort of life would be possible.

A tidal locked binary planet would have variable gravity. The away side has higher gravity. Technically gravity on Earth is also variable because of tides. Rotation also makes the effective of gravity lower at Earth's equator. A rapidly rotating planet could have 0.92 m/s2 at the equator and 1.0m/s2 at the pole.
 
stefan r said:
One impact of lower gravity may be continental drift. A smaller planet could have a cooler mantle/core. Without moving plates and subduction zones the mountains would have eroded and would not get replaced. Probably a boring world.
Neither Mars nor Venus has moving plates. Both have mountains.
Though recently little liquid water. If Mars had still flowing rivers in Martian valley networks, how far would Tharsis have eroded?
Would trees have grown taller on young Mars, when the rivers flowed?
 
snorkack said:
Neither Mars nor Venus has moving plates. Both have mountains.
The mountains are volcanic. Poor choice of words on my part. Mars also has ancient meteor impacts.

snorkack said:
If Mars had still flowing rivers in Martian valley networks, how far would Tharsis have eroded?
Devils Tower [Bear Lodge Butte] in Wyoming is dated 41 million years. So the surrounding plains eroded at least 265 m in 42 million years. Glaciers could move a lot of material from the highest spots.
 

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