Projectile Question (Not making any sense)

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a shell fired from the North Pole. The original poster has successfully solved the first part of the problem but is struggling to understand the implications of the second part, which involves the rotation of the Earth and its effect on the projectile's landing position.

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  • Participants discuss the need to consider the Earth's rotation for the second part of the problem, with hints provided regarding the movement of the target during the shell's flight. Questions arise about the necessary parameters, such as the angular velocity of the Earth and the radius.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing their calculations and values related to range, time, and angles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, and the original poster has identified a potential error in their approach related to the use of degrees versus radians.

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The original poster expresses confusion about the problem's requirements, particularly regarding the consideration of Earth's rotation. There is an emphasis on ensuring all calculations are correctly set up, including the units used.

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Hello guys..I am new in the forum,glad to find you and I think a great work is done here.So my problem is that I have a question on projectiles,I've solved easily the first part but the second part doesn't make any sense to me.I don't even know what it means.Note that english is not my first language.So the problem:

Homework Statement



A gun which is situated precisely at the North Pole fires a shell at an angle of inclination of 60 deg.the horizontal.The initial speed of the shell is 600 m/s.It can be assumed that the terrain is flat and that air resistance can be neglected.
a)How far from the gun will the shell land?

b)If the gun was aimed at a target without taking into account the rotation of the Earth,how far off target would the shell be?

The Attempt at a Solution


As I've told you i solved the first part but part b) doesn't make any sense to me! If anyone can explain what it means please! "without taking into account the rotation of the earth?" was it taken into account before? I'm so confused:p
Thank you!
 
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You didn't need to take the rotation of the Earth into account for part a, since it only asked about the distance. Hint for part b: The target moves with the earth. How far does it move during the flight of the shell?
 
Don't I need the radius of earth?
 
kozis said:
Don't I need the radius of earth?
No, but you'll need the angular velocity of the earth. Figure that out.
 
Here's what I did..I found the angular velocity of Earth by doing ω=2π/86400 and then I found the angle by θ=ωt. Then using a triangle I did tanθ= distance target moved/range. But the result I'm getting is way out of that i should get. I find 4,27m and the answer should be 245m..I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.
 
What values did you get for range, time, and angle θ ?
 
So, for range is what I've found in a) which is 31800m and correct according to the answers. t=106 s and θ=7.7x10^-3
 
kozis said:
So, for range is what I've found in a) which is 31800m and correct according to the answers. t=106 s and θ=7.7x10^-3

Okay, those values look all right to me. You should be finding the correct target offset with these values. Check the calculation again, and if it's still not giving you the right answer, post the details step by step.
 
I have attached an image of extaclty what i did. I hope am not doing any stupid mistake:p
 

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Ok I've found it! Angle is in radians,my calculator was set up in degrees. Thank you both !
 

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