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Pronounciation of Wiener

  1. Apr 24, 2009 #1
    Sorry for the rather abrupt question, but how does one pronounce "Wiener", as in Norbert Wiener?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener

    Does it sound like "Viner"?
     
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  3. Apr 24, 2009 #2

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    tee hee heee hee

    sorry :redface:
     
  4. Apr 24, 2009 #3
    How is this question abrupt? What sequence is it rupturing?
     
  5. Apr 24, 2009 #4

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    Well, I'd pronounce it "wee-ner" but if he pronounces it with the Polish pronunciation of his father's ancestry rather than with an American accent, it might be more like "vee-ner" but short and chopped rather than long and drawled out.
     
  6. Apr 24, 2009 #5
    Did der veenersnitzle come from Poland ? :devil:
     
  7. Apr 24, 2009 #6
    It wouldn't be Wine-er? *shrug*
     
  8. Apr 24, 2009 #7

    Moonbear

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    The wiki article cited says his father was Polish and mother German, so I'm assuming his last name would have picked up his father's pronunciation, not his mother's.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2009 #8

    mgb_phys

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    In German you pronounce the second letter of 'ie' or 'ei'
     
  10. Apr 24, 2009 #9
    Learn something new every day.

    I just wish it was something more substantial, but I'll take what I can get. :-p
     
  11. Apr 25, 2009 #10

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    But the article also says that his father was Polish-Jewish and many Jewish names tend to be pronounced using German (well, Yiddish) pronunciation regardless of the country of origin.
    Just think of all the Russian-Jewish scientist (Lifgarbagez and Landau comes to mind), you don't use Russian pronunciation for their names.
     
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  12. Apr 25, 2009 #11
    As Moonbear said, "wee-ner" is the correct pronounciation. I'm of German descent, I should know...:wink:
     
  13. Apr 25, 2009 #12

    OmCheeto

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    My mother vas from Germany, on the Polish side of the border now. A German would properly pronounce it "Vee-ner", as Moonbear also stated.

    Now if you are from Michigan, it's obviously pronounced "wee-ner", as proven by the following video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HUJ4es4cYIU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param [Broken] name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HUJ4es4cYIU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
     
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  14. Apr 25, 2009 #13
    Nice try Om, :biggrin: but no, the mix up is likely because the city of Wien is also known as Vienna.

    But it's ween, listen carefully to German mother tongues (Deutcher Mutter Zunge):

    Cs1jgQJ5OQU[/youtube] [url]nONboKmXg20[/youtube]
     
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  15. Apr 25, 2009 #14

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    Thank you Andre. As my mother would say, you have made this so klar wie dicke Tinte. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Apr 26, 2009 #15
    Boy, I didn't expect this to be a debate.

    It seems most people here either agreed upon 'veener' or 'weener'

    I just found this site:
    http://www.waukesha.uwc.edu/mat/kkromare/main.html [Broken]

    According to the site, the correct pronunciation is 'vee nuhr'. I've no idea whether it's right. But some of the pronunciations of other obscure mathematicians seems correct (in particular, I asked for the pronunciation of 'Stieltjes' a few months ago).
     
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  17. Apr 26, 2009 #16
    It seems that that this site lives on a parallel word where all german "W" are pronounced as "V". Now let it be known that both German and English are Germanic languages and hence closely related. And as such, consonants are pronounced basically in the same way.

    So if this mathematical expression thing wants to impose the German W as V, it has probably more to do with cultivating subculture and slang than reality and

    Nope (in real life): Way buhr

    Nope: (in real life) Why uhr shtrah ss
     
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  18. Apr 26, 2009 #17

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    Interesting.

    He was called "Vey-bur" where I studied, although a few insisted on "Webber".
     
  19. Apr 26, 2009 #18
    I've never heard it (at two schools in two different countries) pronounced with a W and not a V.
     
  20. Apr 26, 2009 #19
    Here you go:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiener" [Broken]
    :wink:
     
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  21. Apr 26, 2009 #20
    Well, we have just witnessed the mutilation of wiener, caught red handed, would you believe from somebody who spent years in Germany that Germans pronounce ALL W's as W and not as V?
     
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