Proof of Left Cosets Partition a Group

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The discussion revolves around the proof that left cosets of a subgroup partition a group, specifically focusing on the claim that any two left cosets either do not intersect or are equal. Participants explore the implications of this claim, examining the conditions under which cosets may be disjoint or equal, and the assumptions made in the proof provided in a linked resource.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the proof, suggesting three possible cases for the intersection of two left cosets: they may intersect but be unequal, be equal, or be disjoint.
  • Another participant confirms that it is indeed possible for two cosets to be disjoint if the elements belong to different cosets of the subgroup.
  • A participant reiterates that the proof assumes non-disjoint cosets lead to equality, questioning why disjointness is not explicitly addressed in the proof.
  • One participant argues that if two cosets are disjoint, they cannot be equal, which is a general property of non-empty sets.
  • Another participant states that the theorem applies universally to all groups and does not depend on the existence of specific elements in the group, indicating that the proof holds even when the subgroup is the entire group.
  • A participant suggests that to determine the possibility of disjoint cosets, one can consider elements outside the subgroup, providing an example of how this leads to disjointness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of the theorem regarding left cosets, but there is some disagreement about the treatment of disjoint cosets in the proof and the necessity of examples to illustrate the concept.

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The discussion highlights the assumptions made in the proof and the implications of the theorem without resolving the nuances of the conditions under which cosets may intersect or be disjoint.

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Here is a link to a proof which I am trying to understand.

http://groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/Left_cosets_partition_a_group

The claim I am referring to is number 4, which is

Any two left cosets of a subgroup either do not intersect, or are equal.

Assuming that I am skeptical, then for all I know there are three cases: (1) ##aH \cap bH \ne \emptyset## but ##aH \ne bH##; (2) ##aH = bH##; or (3) ##aH \cap bH = \emptyset##.

The truthfulness of (2) and (3) is made reasonable by simple examples and calculations involving certain groups, such as ##D_4##. However, working with these examples, it is not clear that (1) is true or false; consequently, it remains as a possibility.

In the proof given in the link, they start out by supposing that ##aH## and ##bH## are not disjoint, that they could have some elements in common. Continuing on in the proof, we see that by supposing this is true, this undoubtedly leads to the cosets being equal; in doing this, they also show that it is not possible for ##aH \cap bH \ne \emptyset## but ##aH \ne bH##.

But they don't treat whether it is possible for ##aH \cap bH = \emptyset## to be true. Why is that?
 
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It is certainly possible for ##aH \cap bH = \emptyset## to be true. This occurs if and only if ##a## and ##b## are in different cosets of ##H##.
 
Bashyboy said:
In the proof given in the link, they start out by supposing that ##aH## and ##bH## are not disjoint, that they could have some elements in common. Continuing on in the proof, we see that by supposing this is true, this undoubtedly leads to the cosets being equal; in doing this, they also show that it is not possible for ##aH \cap bH \ne \emptyset## but ##aH \ne bH##.

But they don't treat whether it is possible for ##aH \cap bH = \emptyset## to be true. Why is that?
Because it's obvious that if they're disjoint, they're not equal. (This is true for any two non-empty sets, and we have ##a\in aH##, ##b\in bH##).

The goal is to prove that ##aH## and ##bH## are either disjoint or equal. They are clearly either disjoint or not disjoint, so it's sufficient to prove that if they're not disjoint, they're equal.
 
But how do I know if it is possible that they are disjoint? I understand that a disjunctive statement ##p \vee q## is true when at least one of the simple statements is true.

Is the only way to know that it is possible for two cosets to be disjoint is to work with simple examples, as I have already done?
 
The theorem holds for all groups ##G,H## such that ##H## is a subgroup of ##G##. The proof doesn't rely on the existence of ##a,b\in G## such that ##aH## and ##bH## are disjoint. So the proof even holds for the case ##H=G##.

Suppose that no such ##a,b## exist. Then ##aH=H## for all ##a\in G##. (This follows from the theorem and the fact that ##eH=H##). Let ##a\in G## be arbitrary. We have ##a=ae\in aH=H##. So ##G\subseteq H##. Since ##H\subseteq G## by assumption, this implies that ##H=G##.
 
Bashyboy said:
Is the only way to know that it is possible for two cosets to be disjoint is to work with simple examples, as I have already done?
If ##H## is a proper subgroup of ##G##, then take any element ##a \in G## which is not in ##H##. Which coset of ##H## contains ##a##? Certainly not ##H## itself. Therefore ##aH##, the coset containing ##a##, is not the same as ##H##. By the theorem, this forces ##aH \cap H = \emptyset##.
 

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